Friday the 13th (1980)

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What's up, everybody? I am your head camp counselor,

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Chris, and that is my co counselor,

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Jordan. And welcome back to Camp Grindhouse.

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Totally not affiliated with the other camp Grindhouse where

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all those murders happened last season. But we are moving

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on and we are doing a big one this week.

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So in order to celebrate the up and coming Friday the 13th,

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aka this Friday, we thought,

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let's do the motherfucking og of them

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all, Sean S. Cunningham's Friday the

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13th from 1980,

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celebrating the. Season two as well,

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with a banger that is not vacancy two. There's a restart.

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We've talked a lot about Friday the 13th franchise,

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maybe on the show a fairly decent amount, but personally a

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lot. And it's interesting because I've

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always really liked this movie. This movie's always been like my favorite

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or one of my favorites. And I know it's not like one of your

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favorites. I mean, I know you don't dislike it, but it's not like you're one

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or two. No, no. I don't know where you get that from.

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I feel like we've debated this before because this movie

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doesn't have like hockey Mask zombie Jason in it. It doesn't.

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But we'll, we'll get to that. I'll get, I'll get to my, my reasonings and

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my ratings there at the end. Maybe as

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far as like, ratings movie wise goes, this is,

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this is top two. Yeah, but I mean, like your list

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of favorite movies, if you were to put them in

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a row, there's like. You know, I'll turn on Manhattan if

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I want to watch like, Jason and a hockey mask murder people

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in awesome fucking ways. That is a fantastic

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movie. Part seven, Jason looks amazing fighting Carrie.

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Like, just everything about that's great. But when it comes to

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ratings and actually movie like, I'm not rating either

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one of those movies anywhere close to five.

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See, I, I love part six. Part six is so fun.

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It's such a fun movie to watch. But for some reason, man,

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this one is my favorite one. And I do,

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I don't understand it because we don't get Jason, which is,

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you know, Friday 13th. But I don't know,

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man. I don't know if it's nostalgia or. I seen this one so

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many times when I was younger, I don't know. But I love this movie.

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Well, we do, you know, this,

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this gave birth to my favorite horror franchise

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of all time. And that,

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you know, that can't be understated. I do think six,

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seven and eight was like the peak Friday the

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13th for me. Those are my favorite. Those are zombie Jason.

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Just camp. Campers,

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camp counselors in the woods or on a boat, uh,

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taking a lake through the ocean up to New York. Yeah.

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Um, but I think that's like the peak run.

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Those are my favorite to put on. But as a movie,

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uh, this one cannot be understated. Yeah,

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this is so I don't, I don't, every year I don't watch them all.

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I think I've told you before, wherever I, one year I'll watch,

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you know, all the Freddy movies around Halloween, and then the next year I

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watch all the Jason movies. I kind of just switch back and forth.

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But one constant is the very beginning

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of fall. I watch this movie sometime in

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September or beginning of October. I like to try to kick

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things off with this movie. This is every year movie.

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I was thinking about it and I can't even put a number on how many

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times I've seen this movie overall. But I was thinking about the

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great twist ending, the reveal, what made

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this movie, what it was. And I honestly cannot

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remember a time where I didn't know the ending. And that's kind of

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a shame. I wish I could remember the first time I watched this

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and was surprised by that. But my way

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back memory of being a little kid and like, the first time I

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can remember seeing this, it obviously wasn't the first one because I already

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knew who the killer was. So I watched this

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at some point before I even started tracking memories.

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Yeah, this was a movie I really wanted to cover

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in the first year, the season one.

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It was one of the movies I could not wait to talk about. And if

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you remember, I had a question that I

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have wanted to ask you for probably more than a year.

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And we're finally here. I finally get to ask this question.

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I may have an answer for you. All right. I may make

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you wait a year. Okay. Since you

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made me wait a year for you to ask it. Oh, I didn't want to.

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I wanted to ask it on the show. Like, I almost

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asked it when we weren't recording a while ago, and I

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was like, no, no, no, I gotta hold out because I know we're gonna do

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this movie. I've always finally, here, we've covered

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so many of my favorite movies recently. Like, the show is almost just

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like, you know, our favorite movie syndicate.

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Well, we've covered, we covered vacancy,

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too. Yeah, that's nobody's favorite movie.

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Anyway, I am so ready to talk about this movie.

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So let's get into it.

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Friday the 13th is a 1980 american

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independent slasher film produced and directed by Sean S.

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Cunningham. It was written by Victor Miller and is starring

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Betsy Palmer, Adrian Kingdom, Harry Crosby,

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Laurie Bartman, Mark Nelson, Janine Taylor,

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Robbie Morgan, and Kevin fucking bacon.

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Its plot follows a group of teenage camp counselors who are murdered

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one by one by an unknown killer while they are attempting

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to reopen an abandoned summer camp with a tragic

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past. Weve done that ourselves. Believe weve reopened

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like four times now. Yeah, its been a couple times.

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So, prompted by the success of John Carpenters Halloween

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from 1978, director Cunningham put on an

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advertisement to sell the film in variety

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in early 1979 while Miller was

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still drafting the screenplay. After casting the film

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in New York City, a filming took place in New Jersey in the summer

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of 1979 on an estimated

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budget of $550,000.

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A bidding war ensued

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over the finished film, ending with Paramount Pictures

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acquiring the film for domestic distribution while

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Warner Brothers secured international distribution rights.

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Seeing the producers were the same producers that

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put up the money for the last house on the left.

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Yep. And it's funny that they put out an

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ad in the paper. The Friday the 13th is from

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the producers of the last house on the left. The scariest movie ever made.

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It was not even a screenplay. I didn't even know what the movie was going

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to be about. Yeah, he put it out there to get people to

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chip in money. It was a big play and it worked, man. He rolled the

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dice. So it was released on May 9 of 1980.

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Friday the 13th was a major box office success,

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grossing a 59.8 million worldwide.

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Critical response was divided with some praising the films

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cinematography and score, while numerous others talked shit about

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it for its depiction of graphic violence. Sounds familiar.

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Aside from being the first independent film of its kind to secure distribution

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in the US by a major studio, its box office success

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led to a long series of sequels, a crossover

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with a nightmare on Elm street, and a 2009

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series reboot. A direct sequel, Friday the

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13th part two, was released one year later.

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Cunningham, who was inspired by John Carpenter's Halloween, wanted Friday the

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13th to be shocking, visually stunning, and make you jump out

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of your seat wanting to distance himself from the last house

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on the left. Cunningham wanted Friday the 13th to be more of a

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roller coaster ride. The film was shot in and around the

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townships of Hardwicke, Blairstown, and Hope, New Jersey

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in September of 1979. The camp scenes

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were shot on a working Boy Scout camp named Camp no B.

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Bo Sco. Which is located. Yeah, that's the fucking name.

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And it's harder. It's hard to say. Located in Hardwick, New Jersey,

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the camps. The camp is still standing and still operates as

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a summer camp in April of 2018. Camp no bebo

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sco. Why does all camps have the weirdest fucking

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names? Not the ones in movies, but the ones in real life.

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Always have some. Like, I feel like. Like really hard native

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american word to say. Yes. Say. Say no.

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Be bo five times fast. So nobody.

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Bosco, where the film was shot, held a crystal lake tours,

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an event dedicated to the making of the film, which brought

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attendees to nine of the filming locations on the property.

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The event was attended by actress Adrienne King,

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who recounted the making of the film to fans.

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God damn, that would have been an amazing thing to attend.

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Yeah, yeah, I remember talking about that when we read about it.

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Yeah, man, I wish it could have been in a place to attend that.

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Yeah, we were both in the army at the time. Many, many, many miles away,

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getting screwed. By the old government. When Harry

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Manfredini began working on the musical score, the decision was made to

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only play music when the killer was actually present so

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as not to manipulate the audience.

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Manfredini borrows from the 1975 film jaws,

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where the Shark is likewise not seen for the majority of

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the film, but the motif created by

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John Williams cued the audience to the sharks. Invisible Menace.

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Since its release in 1980, the film has spawned a franchise that

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includes mini sequels, novels, comic books, video games,

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documentaries, and even a mashup with fellow horror icon

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Freddy Krueger, age 24, announced on October 31

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of 2022 that a Friday the 13th prequel

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series was being developed, titled Crystal Lake.

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In January of 2023, Adrian King was cast

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in a recurring, undisclosed role in the series.

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Yeah, I got a. I got a little bit to talk about with that,

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actually. So I think when, when it

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was just leaked not that long ago, when I guess they started

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to reboot, like, they canceled what they were doing. Oh, they fired

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Brian Fuller. Yeah. So it was supposed to be

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each season took place at the time of one of the

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movies and they were gonna go in order. They even made the joke, if we

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get. If we get ten seasons, we'll do Jason and space.

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And I always had large complaints about that because

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I said, who the fuck wants to see, like, we're going to wait for

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this show for that long and we're not going to get Jason Voorhees.

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And the way they were going to set that up for the whole first season

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would have been that way. But I

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had moment of clarity while I was watching the movie,

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and I just recently rewatched Bates Motel. And if

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they can do a season, even if it was just one season

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of the Jason when he was younger

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or after he passes with his mom Pamela.

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And they can do it. Oh, yeah. Even close to as good as they did

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Bates Motel. I think it could be a great show.

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Yeah, that's actually good. I. Good idea. It's a good point.

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You should dm that shit. You should make a 24. Pay you for that.

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All right, so ratings. Rotten tomatoes a 66%.

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IMDb a 6.4 out of ten. A letterboxed a three out of

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five. But the Google average audience rating is a 4.5.

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about four ball hairs.

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As long as you didn't go with chesticles, I'm fine. Oh, it's somewhere in here.

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Great. No, I got some real good ones for you in here.

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So we start off way back in

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1958, where we see that Camp Crystal Lake is thriving

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with a large group of campers and those damn pesky, pot smoking,

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horned up counselors who we see are playing guitar

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and doing a sing along by the fireplace. We didn't see two

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young adult counselors named Barry and Claudette sneak off from

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the group to. To take the skin boat to Tuna

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town.

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Yeah, you're gonna like that one. That's a good one.

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Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I beg to differ. You don't

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like take the skin boat to Tuna town? No. Anything that has to do

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with the word tuna. Oh, I heard another one rubbing pissers.

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Rubbing pit. I'll take rubbing pissers over. Taking anything to

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anything called Tuna town.

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We get. If it. If it smells like tuna town, you were

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in the wrong town. I mean, she's a camp. Maybe she

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doesn't have the best hygiene set up. It was the fifties.

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Yeah. We get our first pov shot from the killer, where we

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see this person just sneaking around the camp being weird.

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Honestly, when the counselors are sitting around the fire singing

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along with the guitar. I guess. I guess serious church

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camp vibes here. I did, too, but I think they did

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that on purpose because they go back to the fifties for the beginning

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of this movie to show kind of the difference between that

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generation in the fifties and that generation in the

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1980. Wait, seventies. Yeah, I was, you know,

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also just maybe we got the story all wrong and

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the killer is really, like a Satan worshiping Jesus hater.

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We don't know. This could be christian camp. We don't know.

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Yeah, they were. They were. They went off to go pray,

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not go to tuna town. Yeah.

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So we then see Barry and Claudette head into a storage room

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where they set out a blanket on the floor and begin to make out.

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We then get the famous music as we switch to the killer's pov

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as they walk up the stairs of the storage room and come upon Barry

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and. Claudette, Barry's hand deep in a thick rug.

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The days before Razor were that good.

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Noticing that they have been caught, the pair quickly tried to button up their

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shirts, while Barry tries to play it off as they were just messing

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around. But before he can even finish his sentence,

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he gets brutally stabbed in the stomach.

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That is our first kill of this massive franchise.

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It is this fucking loser. He is a fucking

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loser. And it's not even a great kill. No, it's not.

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I give that award to the first present day kill that

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we get into here in a couple minutes. So Claudette then starts

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freaking out and attempts to back away, but soon runs into a bunch of

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junk scattered up behind her. Claudette tries to find an escape,

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but unfortunately for her, the only exit is blocked by

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the killer and she pretty quickly gets murdered.

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She stumbled over a fucking box of bibles.

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So it kind of looks like she's

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what she's doing. It looks like what you would do in an earthquake

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where you put your arms out and you're like trying to. You're going side to

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side, trying to hold your balance. Like, that's what she does. It's like, what are

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you doing? Vertigo. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

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No, Vertigo was rampant in the fifties. Probably all that

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post world War two pTSD that passed on to the kids.

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Oh, I was thinking it was like all those, like, going to the.

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The pharmacy and getting a soda pop. Oh, not the soda pop.

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Too much soda pop. Not the cocaine filled coke. Yeah, yeah.

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You gotta get the bottle of cocaine that you just get from the farm.

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Back when they didn't even have to snort their coke. I just drink it.

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I don't know. That could. That was probably before the fifties. I don't know.

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We then get the famous title card, a very

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large 3d looking Friday the 13th. That looks

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fucking awesome. Does look good. It is. I put it down

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as a. What a great fucking intro for 1980

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with the glass breaking and the 3d. Friday the

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13th. Go ahead and give a warning too,

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as we get into this movie that Tom Savini did the effects on this.

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And every time we cover a movie that he did effects on, it's a half

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of the episode is praising his effects. So there's that.

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Yeah, I got. I got a really interesting connection, actually with Tom Savini

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way down the bottom of this episode in the facts.

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So they blow his own head off at some point in the background. We just

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miss it. That'd be cool. But no, it's not. That's not it. Old maniac.

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The shotgun to the. I think that

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may be the greatest Tom Savini effect when he blew his own

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head off with the shotgun. It's fucking legendary. It is

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great. So we then jump to present day, which is June 13,

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1980, where we meet a young girl named Annie,

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who is hitchhiking to a soon to be reopening

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of Camp Crystal Lake, where she has taken a job

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as the cook for the camp. We then see her arrive in

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a small town where she walks into a local diner and asks the

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residents how far away the camp is. We immediately can tell that this

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puts the town people on edge as we see everyone go silent

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and stares at her in surprise. The cashier then informs

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her it is about 20 miles away, when then a local truck

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driver named Enos. What kind of fucking name

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is Enos? I missed the Enos name. His name is Enos.

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Which is. We'll just. We'll just, you know, talk about. The elephant in the room

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is very similar to anus. It runs with penis. What do you

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mean? That's what you got? My first thought was, why would

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you name your kid something that rhymes with penis? It's like they. They combined

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penis and. Well, when I typed it out, I was

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like, that's almost spelled exactly like anus.

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Yeah, well, why would you. Why is that a name worse

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than being named Dick? Like, you're literally. Your parents mixed

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the word anus and penis.

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Anyway, Enos then says that he is heading in that direction

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and offers to give Annie a ride halfway to the camp

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while on his route, while Enos and Annie are walking to the

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truck, an older man.

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Looks like you're saying anus now. Maybe they

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named him after a weenus part

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of your elbow. I I don't know. I mean,

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he's old, so he had to be born in, like, the twenties. Maybe that was

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a name in the thirties. I don't know. Maybe it was a name back in

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the day, like, a popular name. World War one.

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PTSD. Broken brain.

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Let's name our kid anus penis.

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So, while Enos and Annie are walking to the truck, an older man

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who looks quite disheveled, suddenly grabs Annie

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by the arm, asking if she's going to camp blood.

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We then find out that this is crazy Ralph, the town

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drunk, and nobody takes him seriously. Enos then

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tells him to shut up after he and Annie continue to,

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trying to hold it in. I looked

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away for you. He's in

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the next, like, five minutes, so we got to get through this part. It's funny,

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I didn't even. I didn't. He was such a little character.

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I didn't actually ever have to take a note on his name,

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so I missed that he was named Anus Penis.

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So they walk to his truck. Ralph then tells Annie

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that she will never make it out alive and proclaims that the

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camp has a death curse. During the ride with,

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he attempts to get Annie to quit the job at the camp before it's

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too late. After she refuses, he then tells her a

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little bit of the history of the cursed camp Crystal Lake,

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including the two counselors we seen murdered in 58,

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the boy drowning in 57, which becomes a super

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important event in the franchise. Then there was like

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a bunch of fires, and finally in 1962,

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they attempted to reopen the camp again until

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it was discovered the water was bad.

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So this is the first time I've actually really paid attention

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to the dialogue that goes on here and realized that somebody has,

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has spent quite a few years trying to make

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sure that this camp doesn't open back up. I mean, you're talking about murders,

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multiple fires, cabin fires, the water

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being poisoned. This has been going on

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for somebody put a lot of work into this.

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Now, I actually have a theory and

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I think this is really important and no one

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ever talks about it. Everybody always wonders why

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Jason somehow comes back to life as a full grown adult

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after drowning as a boy. And while he is this,

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like undead, unstoppable, pretty much

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like unkillable creature. What if it's because of

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the water? The water was bad. It was just like

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some nuclear waste in the water. Well, I think whatever happened

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to the water, she did sabotaging the camp opening.

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So, yeah, maybe she put some uranium in there.

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I mean, she could have technically not done anything. The water. We don't know.

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Maybe little kid Jason got bit by a radioactive

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zombie. Radioactive fish.

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Radioactive zombie fishe. Okay,

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now we're getting somewhere. Age 24. If you want this idea,

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you know where to send the check. Okay. But yeah,

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I mean, no one ever, you know, that's like a thing that no one ever

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like, can figure out is how. How is Jason like this? And then I

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was watching this and they were like, the water's bad. And I'm like,

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well, he died in the water. What a coincidence. You've never paid attention

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to that dialogue of specifically the water being bad,

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which means she, she definitely sabotaged the water with

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something. Even a dead body floating in there

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is not going to throw an entire lake. And this is a big lake.

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So you would really have to seriously dump some nuclear waste

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in this thing. I mean, I, you know, my thought was she used

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some type of mineral, like some, some like, high amounts

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of like magnesium or iron or something, where they tested it. Good God.

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It had to be a lot, though. It would. Well, whatever she did had to

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be a lot. She shit in it for years.

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Yeah. High amounts of fecal waste in here. Oh,

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right. Yeah. I don't know,

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man. Maybe something happened with the

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fish. It's this tuna town. But, yeah,

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it's a good point. I know. I know. When this movie was done,

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the idea of Jason in the future was never a thing. It's never

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a thought. But it is a really cool thing to kind of piece together that.

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What if whatever she did to that water is what end up

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causing Jason to be this,

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like, unkillable machine? Yeah. I mean, you know, she could

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have studied voodoo under. Under an old jamaican guy

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that lives in Chicago. Yeah, in a day.

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Dewey, Dembele, that shit you don't know very well.

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That's a possibility. Charles Lee Ray did it. Maybe she was friends with Charles

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Lee Ray. Could have been related. Maybe they did something to the water.

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They did a whole thing to the water. The lightning struck the water and he's

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like, look, there's, like, voodoo. Fucking radioactive voodoo all

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over this fucking thing. They'll never open this camp up. I 100% believe

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that she had a voodoo for dummies book.

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We don't know. Yeah. Anyway, this is where we also find

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out that Annie's boss, Steve Christie, has been up at the camp

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for a year, attempting to restore it in order to reopen it.

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Even after all of this, Annie still refuses to quit. And Enos,

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basically, this basic, I am not going to

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be able to get through this with this fucking guy's name. I got to get

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out of this part of the movie. Oh, my God. He's not in the whole

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movie. Zenith's penis would be a

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hard one to get through a whole movie with. So he basically, he calls her

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a dumbass. A little later on, we see Ina stop

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at a crossroads. At about the halfway point,

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Annie jumps out as they share a sincere goodbye. Enos truck

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goes one way and Annie heads the other. She only got ten more

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miles to go. A long walk.

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Ana's penis went the back way out of the wood.

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Next up, we meet three of our main characters. We have Jack,

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who is pretty much your all american guy, Jack's girlfriend,

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Marcy, and their friend Ned, who is,

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I guess, kind of like the jokester. And he also apparently

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has, like, a big crush on Marcy. Seems very obvious to

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me. I hate Ned. I do, too. Ned. Ned is

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the Shelley. He is the Shelly. Yeah. He inspired Shelly, more than likely.

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He sucks and he's lazy as fuck. It's like, I thought

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we had two weeks. He's already putting us to work. Like, he thought he was

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just going to hang out for two weeks and get paid. So, yeah,

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these three then pull into Camp Crystal Lake. For the first time

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and meet their new boss, Steve Christie, who immediately puts

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their asses to work. I don't even think they stand there for two minutes

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and he's already got some shit for them to do. During this introduction,

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we also meet our girl Alice Hardy,

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who has been at the camp helping Steve fix it up for

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some time already. And you can tell she's getting tired

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00:29:10,570 --> 00:29:14,738
of Steve's bossy attitude. We then get this really weird

468
00:29:14,794 --> 00:29:18,442
scene where Alice is fixing a gutter

469
00:29:18,586 --> 00:29:22,396
and Steve walks over. He picks up her sketchbook

470
00:29:22,468 --> 00:29:26,076
and just starts, like, going through it. He compliments her work

471
00:29:26,148 --> 00:29:29,532
where she then hits him with a passive aggressive comment

472
00:29:29,676 --> 00:29:33,436
about how basically he works her too much and she hardly gets

473
00:29:33,468 --> 00:29:37,348
time to sketch anything. But that's not what makes the scene weird.

474
00:29:37,524 --> 00:29:41,444
So Steve then starts hitting on Alice despite

475
00:29:41,532 --> 00:29:45,292
the fact that he is obviously way older than her.

476
00:29:45,476 --> 00:29:49,426
It's definitely creepy. And Alice

477
00:29:49,578 --> 00:29:53,098
tells him that she isn't sure she's going to stay much longer.

478
00:29:53,154 --> 00:29:57,074
And Steve then responds by touching her like a weirdo and

479
00:29:57,122 --> 00:30:00,274
asking her to give it one more chance and to give it

480
00:30:00,322 --> 00:30:03,590
one more week before she says, before she decides.

481
00:30:03,930 --> 00:30:07,106
Yeah, Steve is trying to stuff her gutter for sure.

482
00:30:07,218 --> 00:30:10,506
Well, the way he acts here,

483
00:30:10,658 --> 00:30:14,884
like, when she's going to leave, it's like, it's like an abusive husband

484
00:30:14,932 --> 00:30:18,052
when he. Thinks his wife leaving being the last house on the left.

485
00:30:18,116 --> 00:30:21,588
It's off those pipes. Yeah, it's like he, he already

486
00:30:21,684 --> 00:30:25,012
has, like, he's like, set on her and she's

487
00:30:25,036 --> 00:30:28,524
like, well, you know, I think I'm gonna leave. Yeah. When somebody says,

488
00:30:28,572 --> 00:30:32,284
like, hey, I'm thinking about leaving, doing a super creepy caress

489
00:30:32,332 --> 00:30:35,444
of their hair is probably not the thing to do.

490
00:30:35,532 --> 00:30:38,268
Yeah, I'd be like, you know what? Nevermind. I'm not gonna give it to Friday.

491
00:30:38,364 --> 00:30:41,780
I'm gonna fucking leave this very second. Well, the look on his face is really

492
00:30:41,820 --> 00:30:45,134
creepy too. Like, you're leaving? What?

493
00:30:45,302 --> 00:30:48,014
It's like, yeah, I'm gonna quit.

494
00:30:48,142 --> 00:30:51,966
Because, like, she does work for him. Yeah, I'm gonna quit. I'm gonna

495
00:30:51,998 --> 00:30:55,366
leave. And he's like, wait. Yeah, it's like,

496
00:30:55,398 --> 00:30:58,622
I got it. I got a daughter your age. She's a bitch. Yeah,

497
00:30:58,646 --> 00:31:02,238
he's way older, too. Man, this, it's this really creepy scene.

498
00:31:02,414 --> 00:31:06,118
So we still have a couple more main characters here, and I'm

499
00:31:06,134 --> 00:31:09,956
gonna run through them real quick. So we kind of know who everybody is.

500
00:31:10,078 --> 00:31:13,624
So we have already met Steve Christie, the boss of the operation,

501
00:31:13,752 --> 00:31:17,464
Alice, who's like the main counselor and kind of like Steve's right

502
00:31:17,512 --> 00:31:20,632
hand woman, Marcy, who is dating Jack and has

503
00:31:20,656 --> 00:31:23,656
just arrived. Our all american guy, Jack.

504
00:31:23,808 --> 00:31:27,040
Then we have Ned the jokester. Annie the cook,

505
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,464
who still hasn't arrived yet. And finally, Brenda and Bill,

506
00:31:31,552 --> 00:31:34,832
who it seems like they arrived around the same time as Alice.

507
00:31:35,016 --> 00:31:38,760
And that is our first set of Friday the 13th

508
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,546
camp counselors ever. And they'll never

509
00:31:42,738 --> 00:31:46,162
make it to actually be camp counselors now. They're just,

510
00:31:46,226 --> 00:31:49,994
they're just camp maintenance people. Maintenance people. No, I was respectable

511
00:31:50,042 --> 00:31:52,970
for fishing. I was thinking, Steve's putting,

512
00:31:53,010 --> 00:31:56,230
putting them all to work. I'm like, you know, he's probably,

513
00:31:56,690 --> 00:31:59,554
you know how expensive camp is even back then.

514
00:31:59,602 --> 00:32:03,682
And you put in inflation. It was probably expensive back then, too. And he's

515
00:32:03,706 --> 00:32:06,952
got all these down payments to raise all this money to

516
00:32:06,976 --> 00:32:10,352
send these kids that are supposed to be starting camp in two weeks. And then

517
00:32:10,376 --> 00:32:14,328
it's like a camp that's, like, cursed. And they tried to reopen for years

518
00:32:14,344 --> 00:32:17,848
and years and years and can't do it. He's probably freaking out. It's like,

519
00:32:17,864 --> 00:32:21,304
I got to get this shit ready. Yeah. This is also the first

520
00:32:21,352 --> 00:32:25,232
time that I realized that Steve Christie's parents obviously

521
00:32:25,296 --> 00:32:29,432
own, have owned this camp for quite some time.

522
00:32:29,616 --> 00:32:33,594
Because later on, a certain character mentions

523
00:32:33,722 --> 00:32:37,202
that they were he, that they are friends with

524
00:32:37,226 --> 00:32:41,298
the Christie's. Meaning, like, the family and hint,

525
00:32:41,394 --> 00:32:44,026
they worked for the Christie's long ago.

526
00:32:44,178 --> 00:32:47,794
Yeah. And now you've got. And then, and then our boy Enos

527
00:32:47,922 --> 00:32:51,434
even says, like, he's gonna go broke and crazy

528
00:32:51,482 --> 00:32:54,994
like his parents did with that place. So this has been in

529
00:32:55,002 --> 00:32:58,314
the family for some time. And I guess he was like,

530
00:32:58,362 --> 00:33:00,570
I don't know, maybe he's like a rich kid and he's like, I need something

531
00:33:00,610 --> 00:33:04,092
to do. Seems like they, they went broke probably

532
00:33:04,156 --> 00:33:08,140
by 62 after the fires and the murders and stuff.

533
00:33:08,300 --> 00:33:11,780
And then they've now died and he's inherited it. And he's

534
00:33:11,820 --> 00:33:14,908
like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna fucking make a bucket.

535
00:33:14,964 --> 00:33:18,748
I gotta get rich somehow. We then see Steve get

536
00:33:18,764 --> 00:33:21,412
in his jeep and get ready to head into town for the rest of the

537
00:33:21,436 --> 00:33:24,884
day to pick up supplies. He gives the gang their orders of what he once

538
00:33:24,932 --> 00:33:28,260
done while he is gone and informs them that a big storm is coming

539
00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:31,000
tonight and to get as much stuff done as possible.

540
00:33:31,540 --> 00:33:34,868
So right after this, man, this is, like, where Brenda is setting up

541
00:33:34,884 --> 00:33:38,628
the archery range and that fucking idiot Ned almost kills

542
00:33:38,644 --> 00:33:42,100
her with an arrow. What a dumbass. Yeah.

543
00:33:42,180 --> 00:33:45,796
Yeah. He is a fucking idiot. This is actually. I've never noticed

544
00:33:45,828 --> 00:33:48,960
this is kind of foreshadowing. It is.

545
00:33:49,260 --> 00:33:52,852
I would fuck him up, man. If somebody shot an arrow that close to

546
00:33:52,876 --> 00:33:56,252
me and thought it was funny, I'd be like, we, we must fight. Yeah.

547
00:33:56,356 --> 00:34:00,236
Nothing personal. No, it would be personal. I just have to draw

548
00:34:00,268 --> 00:34:03,492
the line to know that I'll fuck you up when you do stupid

549
00:34:03,516 --> 00:34:07,148
shit like that. Would, I would have to. Yeah. If somebody shot an arrow

550
00:34:07,204 --> 00:34:10,212
less than a foot away from where I was standing. Yeah,

551
00:34:10,356 --> 00:34:14,360
we would. We would be, one of us would be leaving that fucking camp

552
00:34:14,700 --> 00:34:17,804
in a body bag. Possibly in

553
00:34:17,812 --> 00:34:20,892
a body bag. So we then jump back to Annie, who is still on her

554
00:34:20,916 --> 00:34:24,068
journey across the world, when we suddenly see

555
00:34:24,124 --> 00:34:27,284
a dark green jeep pull up next to her to give her a ride.

556
00:34:27,452 --> 00:34:30,828
We didn't see her throw her back in the back and eagerly hop in

557
00:34:30,844 --> 00:34:34,508
the passenger side as she says she is heading to Camp Crystal Lake.

558
00:34:34,684 --> 00:34:38,484
Now, this is important because we never hear

559
00:34:38,572 --> 00:34:41,440
or see the driver of this vehicle.

560
00:34:41,820 --> 00:34:45,004
And like I said, I've been dying

561
00:34:45,052 --> 00:34:49,476
to ask you a question about this movie, and it's

562
00:34:49,508 --> 00:34:52,684
gonna, it's gonna have to do with this right here. I can't ask it yet,

563
00:34:52,732 --> 00:34:56,066
but it does with this right here. Huh? All right.

564
00:34:56,098 --> 00:34:58,830
I know they're hauling ass. They are.

565
00:34:59,610 --> 00:35:02,778
Like, I'm pretty sure her, when we're

566
00:35:02,794 --> 00:35:05,522
about to get to her, jumping out of this jeep would have, would have been

567
00:35:05,546 --> 00:35:08,826
enough at this speed.

568
00:35:08,938 --> 00:35:13,034
He's going like 45 miles an hour through dirt roads. Yeah, they're getting it.

569
00:35:13,202 --> 00:35:16,650
So we then see this jeep just hauling ass around these dirt roads,

570
00:35:16,690 --> 00:35:20,194
and Annie is just talking away, telling the driver how excited

571
00:35:20,242 --> 00:35:23,282
she is to be working at the camp. And it's always been her dream to

572
00:35:23,306 --> 00:35:26,962
work with kids, I guess. And all of a sudden, we see the

573
00:35:26,986 --> 00:35:30,986
jeep past the entrance to the camp. This immediately puts Annie

574
00:35:31,018 --> 00:35:34,538
on alert. We then begin to hear the famous music

575
00:35:34,674 --> 00:35:38,266
as the jeep continues down the road with Annie asking to be

576
00:35:38,298 --> 00:35:41,986
let out. Realizing the driver has no plans

577
00:35:42,018 --> 00:35:45,610
on stopping while close to the camps entrance, Annie decides to

578
00:35:45,650 --> 00:35:48,618
make a move and jump from the moving vehicle.

579
00:35:48,794 --> 00:35:51,914
We then see her hit the ground, and as she is attempting to get back

580
00:35:51,962 --> 00:35:55,750
up, the jeep slows to a stop and backs up to Annie's position.

581
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,040
Annie then gets up and runs off into the woods with the killer chasing behind

582
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,672
her. We don't really get to see much of the killer.

583
00:36:03,816 --> 00:36:07,240
We just see a few, like, quick glimpses of some

584
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,128
pants and some legs and, like, a flannel shirt. Just when

585
00:36:11,184 --> 00:36:14,720
Annie thinks that she may have gotten away, she falls to the ground.

586
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,120
But when she looks up, the killer is standing right

587
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,968
in front of her. As she stands up, the killer then slams

588
00:36:21,984 --> 00:36:25,356
her against a tree and slashes her throat with a

589
00:36:25,388 --> 00:36:28,732
large hunting knife. We then see Annie's big,

590
00:36:28,796 --> 00:36:32,620
awesome throat gash begin to pour blood as she falls

591
00:36:32,660 --> 00:36:35,956
to the ground. Man, this was such, such a

592
00:36:35,988 --> 00:36:40,140
great time. And the growth of practical effects. This throat

593
00:36:40,180 --> 00:36:43,700
slit is great. Looks good. I count this as the first

594
00:36:43,820 --> 00:36:47,444
legit, present day Friday the 13th kill

595
00:36:47,492 --> 00:36:51,328
we get, and it looks fucking fantastic. Looks good.

596
00:36:51,524 --> 00:36:55,376
I will say, you know, talking about Annie,

597
00:36:55,568 --> 00:36:59,248
the look she has on her face as she's dying is the

598
00:36:59,304 --> 00:37:02,608
same look that I have when I have a bad sore throat and I

599
00:37:02,624 --> 00:37:05,896
drink something cold. Like, yeah, look,

600
00:37:05,928 --> 00:37:09,368
go back and like, watch her. The face she makes is not I'm dying

601
00:37:09,424 --> 00:37:12,688
or my throat's cut face. It's like, oh, that burns.

602
00:37:12,864 --> 00:37:16,032
It's, it's. I feel like she could have did a little bit better of a

603
00:37:16,056 --> 00:37:19,970
job. With her dying, but she didn't get a very big part, so she's

604
00:37:20,010 --> 00:37:23,794
like, fuck it. I think if I remember correctly,

605
00:37:23,842 --> 00:37:27,426
she didn't actually audition for the film. She worked for,

606
00:37:27,458 --> 00:37:30,350
like, one of the production people in her office.

607
00:37:30,650 --> 00:37:33,506
And the lady came in and looked at her one day and was like,

608
00:37:33,618 --> 00:37:37,498
you're gonna be a camp counselor. Yeah. And then just walked out. They talk

609
00:37:37,554 --> 00:37:40,914
about it a little bit on the camp.

610
00:37:40,962 --> 00:37:44,340
Crystal lake memories. I'm pretty sure you're right. I.

611
00:37:44,370 --> 00:37:47,816
Yeah, she's not an actual, I don't even think she has an IMDb page or

612
00:37:47,848 --> 00:37:51,296
anything. I think she, I don't think she ever did any more acting. You know,

613
00:37:51,328 --> 00:37:54,832
she, she's pretty good in the movie for the little bit. She is. Like when

614
00:37:54,856 --> 00:37:58,928
she's going through the town and she's like playing this like kinda

615
00:37:59,104 --> 00:38:03,232
naive, happy go lucky, like 1819 year

616
00:38:03,256 --> 00:38:07,024
old going off to work. Yeah, I have no issue

617
00:38:07,072 --> 00:38:10,800
with her. Except for her, her face she makes when she dies.

618
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,220
Yeah, well, I'd probably have a bad time making that.

619
00:38:14,900 --> 00:38:17,520
I just got my throat slit face too.

620
00:38:18,380 --> 00:38:21,940
So next up, we see the gang doing some swimming

621
00:38:21,980 --> 00:38:25,068
in the lake, cutting up and having a good time,

622
00:38:25,244 --> 00:38:28,164
you know, before they all get brutally murdered.

623
00:38:28,332 --> 00:38:31,484
And while this is going on, we then get that famous pov

624
00:38:31,532 --> 00:38:35,476
again where we see that after murdering Annie, the killer has

625
00:38:35,508 --> 00:38:39,260
made their way to the camp and is watching the group from the COVID of

626
00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:43,246
the wood line. I must say, even though it was

627
00:38:43,278 --> 00:38:46,650
in the eighties, you know, back in the day, and there's some rough hairstyles,

628
00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:51,366
this bathing suit. Scenes. Not, not too, not too bad. Well, I do

629
00:38:51,398 --> 00:38:54,886
got a complaint about this bathing suit scene. Really? I did

630
00:38:54,918 --> 00:38:58,590
not actually, like, I, like, remember seeing Alice and being like, whoa,

631
00:38:58,710 --> 00:39:02,462
Alice is hot. That's not my complaint at all. No, the chicks

632
00:39:02,486 --> 00:39:06,190
look great, but the seventies, late seventies swimming

633
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:10,138
underwear, as they call. You wouldn't call them swimming trunks

634
00:39:10,294 --> 00:39:13,642
they put on these men. I've never known. Oh, God. Yeah. When they

635
00:39:13,666 --> 00:39:18,058
are laying down and Kevin Bacon is standing beside him,

636
00:39:18,114 --> 00:39:21,642
it's kind of weird looking. It is not kind of weird. Look at his wiener.

637
00:39:21,706 --> 00:39:24,522
Is that. I'm just going to say it like, I'm kind of mad that I

638
00:39:24,586 --> 00:39:28,890
got a fucking, like, straight shot of Kevin Bacon's weiner.

639
00:39:29,050 --> 00:39:31,790
Like, they might as well put saran wrap on him.

640
00:39:34,530 --> 00:39:37,786
Yeah, there's a, like, crotch shot really close up

641
00:39:37,818 --> 00:39:41,690
on the screen. Yeah. You know, I'm surprised for him.

642
00:39:41,730 --> 00:39:45,622
I, you know, I would have been like, well, I. You gotta let

643
00:39:45,646 --> 00:39:49,810
me get this thing a little bigger.

644
00:39:51,110 --> 00:39:54,678
May I stuff a sock in my trunks before

645
00:39:54,774 --> 00:39:59,190
I get going here? Yeah. Like, I at least need like half

646
00:39:59,230 --> 00:40:02,558
chub or something because this is, it's not, it's very

647
00:40:02,614 --> 00:40:06,206
quick, but I've never noticed it in the movie. And I'm like, if I'm Kevin

648
00:40:06,238 --> 00:40:09,470
Bacon, I'm like, can't y'all shoot that some other way? Yeah,

649
00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:12,782
like, why does my dick have to be right in the

650
00:40:12,806 --> 00:40:16,506
camera is. Right next to, like, who is it?

651
00:40:16,618 --> 00:40:20,162
It's one of the characters. She's sitting there and, like, right next to

652
00:40:20,186 --> 00:40:24,626
her head. Yeah. And there's just a dick next to her. So I guess generations

653
00:40:24,698 --> 00:40:28,162
of people have seen Kevin Bacon's, I don't know, like 20 year

654
00:40:28,186 --> 00:40:31,642
old penis. You know what? Sean Cunningham's like, this kid's

655
00:40:31,666 --> 00:40:34,714
gonna be a fucking star. I'm gonna get a dick before everybody.

656
00:40:34,762 --> 00:40:38,402
It's just like whoever shot those naked pictures of Marilyn Monroe

657
00:40:38,466 --> 00:40:41,630
before they were sold to Playboy, before she got famous. Yeah.

658
00:40:42,570 --> 00:40:45,962
Also, Steve gave these motherfuckers a list of

659
00:40:45,986 --> 00:40:49,186
shit to do while he's gone and they ain't done a damn thing but have

660
00:40:49,218 --> 00:40:51,430
fun. So that happens when you hire kids.

661
00:40:52,210 --> 00:40:56,018
So later on we see Ned dressed as a Native American acting like

662
00:40:56,034 --> 00:40:59,458
a dumbass in front of Marcy and Brenda when suddenly a cop on

663
00:40:59,474 --> 00:41:03,362
a motorcycle pulls up wanting to speak to them. We then get the rest

664
00:41:03,386 --> 00:41:06,922
of the teens walk out and of course the cop wants to know where the

665
00:41:06,946 --> 00:41:10,588
weed is. This fucking cop sucks. He's a straight up

666
00:41:10,604 --> 00:41:14,436
douchebag. He's one of them guys who takes being a

667
00:41:14,468 --> 00:41:17,280
cop in a small town where, like, nothing happens,

668
00:41:17,580 --> 00:41:21,148
way too serious. This guy's fucking line where

669
00:41:21,204 --> 00:41:24,120
he's like, do you smoke? And he's like, no, that, that,

670
00:41:24,540 --> 00:41:27,940
uh, that gives you cancer. And he's like, don't, don't play with me,

671
00:41:27,980 --> 00:41:30,972
son. He's like, you know the columbian gold. The grass,

672
00:41:31,036 --> 00:41:34,548
the hash, the weed. You dig it. Like he,

673
00:41:34,644 --> 00:41:38,040
when he finished it off with dig it, I was like, how the

674
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,500
fuck did this guy keep a straight face?

675
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,540
All his dialogue is bad. How did anybody keep a straight face?

676
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,400
Yeah, it's pretty, pretty awful. And his motorcycle

677
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,248
riding skills. I have always watched this movie and always

678
00:41:54,304 --> 00:41:57,340
said to myself, this guy cannot ride a motorcycle.

679
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,040
And I watched the camp Crystal lake nightmare,

680
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,448
which are Camp Crystal Lake memories, which I've seen a

681
00:42:04,464 --> 00:42:08,428
million times, but I actually never paid attention to it. He talks about this.

682
00:42:08,504 --> 00:42:12,412
He had never rode a motorcycle. You can tell. He wrecked the motorcycle.

683
00:42:12,476 --> 00:42:15,916
You can tell. Yeah, it's. I don't even know why they put him riding

684
00:42:15,948 --> 00:42:19,380
off in the movie. It was so bad. I mean, you know, I ride

685
00:42:19,420 --> 00:42:22,604
motorcycles and I will say riding a motorcycle in, like,

686
00:42:22,652 --> 00:42:26,300
gravel is difficult for somebody. Who'S never rode a motorcycle.

687
00:42:26,340 --> 00:42:30,212
Probably extremely difficult. Extremely. I'm surprised he didn't wreck it,

688
00:42:30,236 --> 00:42:33,876
like, every time he did that scene. Yeah. I I

689
00:42:33,908 --> 00:42:36,476
would have just been like, you know, we're just not going to put him riding

690
00:42:36,508 --> 00:42:39,000
on, like, we'll show him right out of the shop.

691
00:42:39,940 --> 00:42:42,796
They got a cop car. Just have them drive the car out there.

692
00:42:42,908 --> 00:42:45,684
Yeah, I don't know. I'm gonna jump back real quick,

693
00:42:45,732 --> 00:42:49,364
though. I do want to say shout out to the

694
00:42:49,412 --> 00:42:53,388
sacrificial snake that gave its life for the birth of this amazing

695
00:42:53,444 --> 00:42:56,740
franchise, Friday the 13th. Yeah, that really sucks

696
00:42:56,820 --> 00:42:59,732
that they killed the snake for real. It does.

697
00:42:59,796 --> 00:43:03,044
You know, that was Tom Savini's idea. But I think it

698
00:43:03,052 --> 00:43:06,964
was a different time too. People were like, excuse me,

699
00:43:06,972 --> 00:43:10,604
excuse Tom Savini. It's not his fault. It was a different time. I mean,

700
00:43:10,652 --> 00:43:14,568
have you seen. Have you seen fucking cannibal holocaust

701
00:43:14,744 --> 00:43:17,688
like that? That is fucked up. Yeah,

702
00:43:17,784 --> 00:43:20,656
but this, you know, I. It sucks.

703
00:43:20,848 --> 00:43:23,864
But, you know, I wonder if it

704
00:43:23,872 --> 00:43:27,120
was the sacrifice to the cinema gods, maybe sacrifice to

705
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:31,440
life. And that's why this movie ended up being just booming way

706
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,840
bigger than anybody ever thought. It was a blood ritual, you know? Yeah,

707
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,872
that's what it was. It was. It was a sacrifice so we could have adjacent

708
00:43:38,896 --> 00:43:42,586
Bordeaux. I actually seen the other day that the,

709
00:43:42,778 --> 00:43:45,874
the goat that played black Phillip is, was so

710
00:43:45,922 --> 00:43:49,410
difficult that he cannot no longer do films,

711
00:43:49,450 --> 00:43:52,834
and he has been moved to a farm in the middle of nowhere.

712
00:43:52,882 --> 00:43:56,674
You don't remember talking about that? No. Like, how hard he was to work with?

713
00:43:56,722 --> 00:44:00,074
I know. I remember bringing it up, but this is the first time I

714
00:44:00,082 --> 00:44:03,962
got an update that no one could ever work with him after that.

715
00:44:04,026 --> 00:44:07,710
And it's because he's like a famous goat now and then. They were like,

716
00:44:07,870 --> 00:44:10,770
famous or not, this motherfucker's got to go to a farm.

717
00:44:11,710 --> 00:44:14,854
Somebody get black Phillip the fuck out of here. Like,

718
00:44:14,902 --> 00:44:18,278
he actually killed somebody on set. Oh, I need a shirt

719
00:44:18,334 --> 00:44:22,090
that. With black Phillips picture on it. This is set. Black Phillip free.

720
00:44:23,950 --> 00:44:27,366
Free black Phillip. Free him from the farm.

721
00:44:27,438 --> 00:44:30,878
We should sell on our show. We should get a shop and sell those shirts.

722
00:44:31,014 --> 00:44:34,486
So the cop then informs everyone that the real reason he came

723
00:44:34,518 --> 00:44:38,052
out to the camp is because he is looking for crazy Ralph,

724
00:44:38,156 --> 00:44:41,436
who got drunk and was planning to head out to the camp to warn

725
00:44:41,468 --> 00:44:44,620
the teens. After informing the cop that they haven't

726
00:44:44,660 --> 00:44:47,988
seen any crazy Ralph's wandering around, the officer then gets

727
00:44:48,004 --> 00:44:51,556
a call on his radio informing him that the chief wants him back

728
00:44:51,588 --> 00:44:54,484
in town. Never leave the chief waiting.

729
00:44:54,572 --> 00:44:58,236
God, that was so cringey. Right after he

730
00:44:58,268 --> 00:45:01,620
leaves, we see Alice cleaning up the kitchen, and when she

731
00:45:01,660 --> 00:45:04,542
goes to put some pots and pans in the pantry,

732
00:45:04,716 --> 00:45:08,306
crazy Ralph pops out of the door, informing her that he

733
00:45:08,338 --> 00:45:11,930
is a messenger of God and they are doomed if they stay

734
00:45:12,010 --> 00:45:15,522
at the camp. And also, Crystal Lake has

735
00:45:15,546 --> 00:45:19,026
a death curse, so all the curses to have the death curse

736
00:45:19,058 --> 00:45:22,722
is the worst. Yeah. This guy literally broke in this house and

737
00:45:22,746 --> 00:45:26,658
hid in the pantry for a while, apparently. Yeah. So at

738
00:45:26,714 --> 00:45:29,834
this point in the movie, we have two main suspects. We have

739
00:45:29,882 --> 00:45:33,398
crazy Ralph, which is just obviously. I think it's

740
00:45:33,454 --> 00:45:36,694
obvious that he's a red herring. And then the other is kind

741
00:45:36,702 --> 00:45:40,214
of the harbinger, too. We have. We have Steve, who also drives

742
00:45:40,262 --> 00:45:43,966
a green jeep. Yes. Who we noticed somebody gets

743
00:45:43,998 --> 00:45:48,166
killed from being in a green jeep. Yeah. The green jeep is a big,

744
00:45:48,238 --> 00:45:53,126
big puzzle piece. Yeah. That is our two. Two suspects

745
00:45:53,278 --> 00:45:56,822
thus far. Yeah. As Alice then begins to

746
00:45:56,846 --> 00:46:00,238
back away from him, we then see some of the others run to see what

747
00:46:00,254 --> 00:46:03,500
all the commotion is about. After a few more warnings,

748
00:46:03,540 --> 00:46:07,052
crazy Ralph then flees the cabin, totally not looking

749
00:46:07,116 --> 00:46:10,852
suspicious at all. You know, I do got a little respect

750
00:46:10,916 --> 00:46:13,892
for Ralph, though. He may be the town drunk,

751
00:46:14,076 --> 00:46:17,200
but he stays in a kind of raggedy suit.

752
00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:21,356
Not that many crazy drunks put that much effort into looking respectable.

753
00:46:21,508 --> 00:46:25,380
Also, he knows that there's

754
00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:28,876
somebody murdering people out here. And he rode his

755
00:46:28,908 --> 00:46:33,114
bike by himself 20 miles. 20 miles to warn

756
00:46:33,162 --> 00:46:37,018
some. Some teenagers. Hey, you guys need to go. I don't want

757
00:46:37,034 --> 00:46:39,070
to see you die for two minutes.

758
00:46:39,810 --> 00:46:42,786
He's like, I got a ride. 20 miles there. I got to find a place

759
00:46:42,818 --> 00:46:45,898
to hide until the coppers leave. I mean, the guy. I got to warn them,

760
00:46:45,914 --> 00:46:48,642
and then I got to ride my bike out of there. The guy has to

761
00:46:48,666 --> 00:46:52,378
have a good soul, like, he did all that because he didn't want to

762
00:46:52,394 --> 00:46:55,810
see some kids die. And they call him. And they call him

763
00:46:55,850 --> 00:46:59,618
crazy Ralph. Good, good guy. Call him caring Ralph.

764
00:46:59,674 --> 00:47:03,338
Yeah. Later on in the evening, Jack and his girlfriend

765
00:47:03,394 --> 00:47:07,386
Marcy are hanging out by the lake, spending some quality time together.

766
00:47:07,578 --> 00:47:11,378
And then we jump to Ned, who is being a sad emo boy,

767
00:47:11,434 --> 00:47:14,754
while creeping on Jack and Marcy. God, I hate this guy.

768
00:47:14,922 --> 00:47:19,106
And after a bit of moping around, he spots someone walking into his

769
00:47:19,138 --> 00:47:23,230
cabin. He calls out to this person, but gets no response.

770
00:47:23,530 --> 00:47:26,988
He then follows them inside, and we

771
00:47:27,004 --> 00:47:30,520
get left hanging because then we jump back to Jack and Marcy.

772
00:47:30,820 --> 00:47:33,480
Not even the cameraman, want to follow Nick.

773
00:47:34,340 --> 00:47:37,996
So this is where Marcy starts telling Jack about a recurring dream

774
00:47:38,028 --> 00:47:40,840
she has where this guy is raining blood.

775
00:47:41,140 --> 00:47:44,964
And while they are talking about this, we then see a

776
00:47:45,012 --> 00:47:48,812
serious thunderstorm roll in. And as it begins raining,

777
00:47:48,876 --> 00:47:52,806
Jack and Marcy quickly get up and run into the cabin. And as

778
00:47:52,838 --> 00:47:56,542
they get inside, it's obvious that Jack is ready

779
00:47:56,566 --> 00:48:00,678
to conquer the pink forest as they both begin to undress.

780
00:48:00,854 --> 00:48:03,330
That one's not as bad. No,

781
00:48:03,670 --> 00:48:08,006
that one's not as bad. It's very thick forest

782
00:48:08,158 --> 00:48:11,558
and night, probably. So back in the main cabin,

783
00:48:11,614 --> 00:48:14,930
we see Alice, Brenda, and Bill hanging out.

784
00:48:15,350 --> 00:48:19,462
It's seriously storming at this point. And Brenda decides they should

785
00:48:19,526 --> 00:48:24,066
all play a game of strip monopoly. I bet Bill was like,

786
00:48:24,258 --> 00:48:27,698
oh, this is how threesomes happen. Yeah, that's what I put in

787
00:48:27,714 --> 00:48:30,810
my notes. Lucky Bill, strip monopoly with you

788
00:48:30,850 --> 00:48:34,442
and two other chicks your age that are attractive. Those are

789
00:48:34,466 --> 00:48:37,962
hot. Yes. That's a win. Brenda coming in clutch

790
00:48:38,026 --> 00:48:41,738
with the ideas. Yeah. And she's obviously feeling a

791
00:48:41,754 --> 00:48:45,050
little. A little horny. Yeah, it's gonna say it.

792
00:48:45,090 --> 00:48:48,880
You don't. You don't. You don't request playing strip

793
00:48:49,260 --> 00:48:52,484
poker or monopoly, which I'd never even heard of.

794
00:48:52,652 --> 00:48:56,140
You're not, you're not trying to get naked if you're not

795
00:48:56,180 --> 00:48:59,364
open to something. She's like, I'm feeling Bill,

796
00:48:59,452 --> 00:49:02,980
and this. This Alice girl's kind of cute. You know,

797
00:49:03,020 --> 00:49:05,628
we can get a little threesome happening. This is how we get it going.

798
00:49:05,764 --> 00:49:09,012
And Bill, if he had the fucking balls, he's.

799
00:49:09,156 --> 00:49:12,380
Bill's a good guy. He's. He is a good guy. He is the good

800
00:49:12,420 --> 00:49:16,000
guy of the movie. Yeah, but he just. He doesn't have

801
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,760
the instincts to capitalize on a threesome. On the threesome,

802
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,736
he just didn't have it. Now I was yelling at the DV. I've seen

803
00:49:23,768 --> 00:49:27,200
this a million times. So we then jump back over to Jack

804
00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:30,936
and Marcy and while they are engaged in their passionate lovemaking,

805
00:49:31,048 --> 00:49:34,544
the camera pans up to reveal Ned with

806
00:49:34,592 --> 00:49:38,352
his throat slit, lying dead on the top bunk.

807
00:49:38,536 --> 00:49:41,544
Ned was annoying. So not really a devastating loss here.

808
00:49:41,632 --> 00:49:45,160
Yeah, what's really annoying is that we didn't get to see Ned get his throat

809
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,872
cut. That was annoying. But it did set up this awesome

810
00:49:48,936 --> 00:49:52,984
cinematography shot. I did want to give a shout out to the

811
00:49:53,152 --> 00:49:57,048
cinematography and the director for that because we get this awesome,

812
00:49:57,104 --> 00:50:00,904
like, them making love and then the camera goes up

813
00:50:00,952 --> 00:50:04,896
and there he is, dead on the top. Punk. I like it. Really cool setup

814
00:50:04,928 --> 00:50:07,932
shot. I'm glad they killed him kind of early on too.

815
00:50:08,016 --> 00:50:11,240
They had to deal with more of his antics. They should have killed him first.

816
00:50:11,620 --> 00:50:15,196
Yeah, yeah. They should have had him hiking. And Annie

817
00:50:15,228 --> 00:50:18,292
already at the thing. Well, you notice, like Alice,

818
00:50:18,356 --> 00:50:22,204
when she's inside, she's right before they play strip poker, she's worried

819
00:50:22,252 --> 00:50:26,228
about. She's worried about everybody but Ned in storm,

820
00:50:26,324 --> 00:50:29,612
the one person she doesn't mention, think she likes. And then here,

821
00:50:29,636 --> 00:50:33,308
in a little bit when they go looking for them, she doesn't mention

822
00:50:33,364 --> 00:50:36,556
Ned until she calls out everybody else's name three times.

823
00:50:36,708 --> 00:50:39,618
Ned is the last. But nobody gives a fuck about Neddeenen.

824
00:50:39,664 --> 00:50:43,110
Yeah, they're like, hopefully Ned went off and died. I'm pretty sure the only reason

825
00:50:43,150 --> 00:50:46,782
he's there is because Jack and Marcy needed a ride to

826
00:50:46,806 --> 00:50:50,334
the camp because they probably don't have cars. Yeah,

827
00:50:50,382 --> 00:50:54,494
well, yeah, I feel like they could have just like,

828
00:50:54,622 --> 00:50:58,342
somebody like that. They could have just been like, I'll give you some weed.

829
00:50:58,486 --> 00:51:01,678
Give us a ride up there. Obviously he was getting paid.

830
00:51:01,854 --> 00:51:04,622
They might have tried that. And then they. He was like, well, why give me

831
00:51:04,646 --> 00:51:07,974
some weed when I can just work with you guys? He's that guy. Yeah.

832
00:51:08,102 --> 00:51:11,510
Fuck. And then I would have called. I would have called Steve

833
00:51:11,550 --> 00:51:14,238
and I'd have been like, look, man, this guy wants to work. I know you

834
00:51:14,254 --> 00:51:18,222
need extra hands, but he's just. He's gonna cause more work. Nah, Steve would

835
00:51:18,246 --> 00:51:22,130
hire him. He needs as much fucking I'm fucking desperate.

836
00:51:22,630 --> 00:51:25,702
So post coitus, Marcy declares that she's

837
00:51:25,726 --> 00:51:28,918
got a pee and gets up to go to the bathroom. Now remember,

838
00:51:29,094 --> 00:51:32,850
there are no bathrooms in the cabin, so she has to run outside.

839
00:51:33,270 --> 00:51:36,534
And while she is gone, we see Jack laying on the bed,

840
00:51:36,622 --> 00:51:40,558
relaxing as he lice up a joint. And right after he

841
00:51:40,694 --> 00:51:43,758
exhales that sweet, sweet chronic smoke,

842
00:51:43,934 --> 00:51:47,370
a couple of drops of blood land on his face.

843
00:51:47,710 --> 00:51:51,398
And as he wipes it off and looks up to the bunk above

844
00:51:51,454 --> 00:51:54,790
him, suddenly a hand comes from underneath the

845
00:51:54,830 --> 00:51:58,410
bed and grabs his forehead, holding him in place.

846
00:51:58,790 --> 00:52:01,942
I do want to bring up, before we go any further, a couple drops of

847
00:52:01,966 --> 00:52:05,304
blood, like Marcy's dream where it's raining blood.

848
00:52:05,432 --> 00:52:09,136
Hmm. Yeah, cool. And never, never put

849
00:52:09,168 --> 00:52:12,060
that together. I just thought, it's a camp blood reference.

850
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,480
We then see a motherfucking arrowhead

851
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,620
come bursting through his neck from behind.

852
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,032
And that is a legendary kill. It is a legendary

853
00:52:28,096 --> 00:52:31,800
kill. And there's been quite a few movies, even a couple we have

854
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,944
covered, that has tried to remake this kill or have

855
00:52:34,992 --> 00:52:38,548
remade this kill. This. I mean, poor Jack,

856
00:52:38,604 --> 00:52:42,172
man. You just got wade lighting up a j and boom, you got a fucking

857
00:52:42,196 --> 00:52:44,860
arrow through your neck. Kind of a good way to go out, though. I mean.

858
00:52:44,900 --> 00:52:49,428
I mean, good. Good way to lead up to going out. But getting stabbed,

859
00:52:49,604 --> 00:52:53,220
like, it was quick. Yeah, I'm not sure how quick it was.

860
00:52:53,260 --> 00:52:55,880
Like actually to him, he may have, like,

861
00:52:56,260 --> 00:52:59,652
I don't know, maybe he lost consciousness. I will say one

862
00:52:59,676 --> 00:53:03,016
cool thing about the practical effects on this island is the

863
00:53:03,048 --> 00:53:07,140
pump that they had hooked up to his neck, the blood pump actually

864
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,792
malfunctioned. Actually came off. Yeah.

865
00:53:10,976 --> 00:53:14,448
Yeah. One of Tom Savini's assistants had to manually

866
00:53:14,544 --> 00:53:18,488
blow the blood, which is why the blood actually splashes up.

867
00:53:18,544 --> 00:53:22,008
It wasn't supposed to be that much, but it actually was one

868
00:53:22,024 --> 00:53:25,232
of those mistakes where it came out, where it looked better than it

869
00:53:25,256 --> 00:53:27,620
would have and it was a first take.

870
00:53:27,930 --> 00:53:31,186
First take shot. Yeah. Another interesting thing about this

871
00:53:31,218 --> 00:53:34,610
kill is the way they had to do it. So they had to build the

872
00:53:34,650 --> 00:53:37,922
special bed for Kevin Bacon. He had to kind of get in there

873
00:53:37,946 --> 00:53:41,402
at an angle. And then Tom Sabini and his assistant, they actually

874
00:53:41,466 --> 00:53:44,322
went in and had to build that, like,

875
00:53:44,386 --> 00:53:47,430
shoulders and neck. They had to build it right there.

876
00:53:47,730 --> 00:53:51,266
And because that took so long, if the scene got

877
00:53:51,298 --> 00:53:54,772
fucked up, they'd have to spend hours rebuilding a new one.

878
00:53:54,906 --> 00:53:58,704
And luckily his assistant, when they were under there doing

879
00:53:58,752 --> 00:54:02,608
it, seen it come loose and he was able to save the scene.

880
00:54:02,744 --> 00:54:05,728
And they got it in the first take. Yes. Not only save it, but it

881
00:54:05,744 --> 00:54:08,936
came out better. Came out better? According to Tom Savini,

882
00:54:08,968 --> 00:54:12,256
it came out more blood than what was supposed to.

883
00:54:12,288 --> 00:54:16,040
And it was at the perfect time where it kind of looked like an artery

884
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:20,280
was, you know, busted and was spraying blood for a second. Only Tom

885
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,028
Savini is so good at effects, a fuck up can be

886
00:54:24,044 --> 00:54:27,740
an improvement. Yeah. So we then jump back over to Marcy,

887
00:54:27,780 --> 00:54:31,252
who is using the bathroom. And as she is finishing up, she starts

888
00:54:31,276 --> 00:54:34,508
to hear a sound like someone else is in there with her.

889
00:54:34,684 --> 00:54:38,200
She comes out to investigate, but finds the place empty at first.

890
00:54:38,500 --> 00:54:42,076
She then hears a loud thump coming from the showers. And as

891
00:54:42,108 --> 00:54:45,500
she is looking around in there, we see the silhouette of an

892
00:54:45,540 --> 00:54:49,008
axe rise up behind her. At this point, she kind

893
00:54:49,024 --> 00:54:52,592
of just gives up thinking that she is just imagining things.

894
00:54:52,736 --> 00:54:54,660
And as she turns around,

895
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,896
bam. She gets an axe straight to the face.

896
00:54:59,048 --> 00:55:02,460
And that is a wrap on Marcy.

897
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:07,060
Great makeup here. This looks awesome. Yeah, I agree.

898
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,656
Like everything Tom Savini does, it came out a fucking masterpiece.

899
00:55:11,848 --> 00:55:15,576
But I will shout out the cinematography for the shadow of the axe

900
00:55:15,608 --> 00:55:19,348
coming up. The way they shot that, the direction of that was set up really

901
00:55:19,424 --> 00:55:23,596
good. But also, this scene is very unsettling.

902
00:55:23,668 --> 00:55:25,240
Could they drag this out?

903
00:55:26,580 --> 00:55:30,452
Yeah. You. You. You think she's gonna die a couple times. And then

904
00:55:30,476 --> 00:55:32,480
when you like maniac. Yeah.

905
00:55:33,900 --> 00:55:36,524
That's a good, good comparison. When you finally think,

906
00:55:36,572 --> 00:55:40,036
okay, like, you know, maybe nothing is gonna happen, you see the fucking

907
00:55:40,108 --> 00:55:43,132
axe. Yeah. Perfect timing. It actually

908
00:55:43,236 --> 00:55:46,236
kind of sets up another kill later on,

909
00:55:46,268 --> 00:55:49,840
too. That is, it kind of makes it a little better, a little more interesting.

910
00:55:50,140 --> 00:55:53,772
We then jump back on over to the main cabin where Alice,

911
00:55:53,836 --> 00:55:57,596
Brenda and Bill are very, very slowly getting naked.

912
00:55:57,748 --> 00:56:01,284
I must say, Alice is really digging this game.

913
00:56:01,372 --> 00:56:05,508
Like, she's into this because she's winning. I think she wants this threesome to

914
00:56:05,524 --> 00:56:08,956
go down. I I think Brenda wants

915
00:56:08,988 --> 00:56:12,748
the threesome. I think Alice just really liked winning. She even says she's

916
00:56:12,764 --> 00:56:17,054
like, I really like this game. I mean, she's basically watching

917
00:56:17,142 --> 00:56:20,534
two people on a right and left get naked. She's into it. She.

918
00:56:20,622 --> 00:56:24,126
She definitely was a child of the

919
00:56:24,158 --> 00:56:27,830
seventies. She's ready to experiment. She's like, let's do it. Yeah.

920
00:56:27,910 --> 00:56:30,998
There was so much controversy about them trying to say,

921
00:56:31,054 --> 00:56:34,630
like, you know, this was like an anti woman movie and stuff like that.

922
00:56:34,790 --> 00:56:38,054
And back in the day, Adrian King actually came

923
00:56:38,102 --> 00:56:41,112
out and said, you know, Alice,

924
00:56:41,246 --> 00:56:44,612
a lot of people look at Al, especially people that criticize the movie as

925
00:56:44,636 --> 00:56:48,428
Alice is this final girl, this good girl? But if you actually pay attention to

926
00:56:48,444 --> 00:56:52,268
the movie, like, she, you know, flirts with guys,

927
00:56:52,324 --> 00:56:54,964
she smokes weed, she drinks. Like,

928
00:56:55,092 --> 00:56:59,028
she's really not an innocent girl at all. I don't know where that comes

929
00:56:59,084 --> 00:57:02,716
from in this. And that's a really good point, because Alice

930
00:57:02,748 --> 00:57:05,876
is not that, like, I'm a virgin and, you know,

931
00:57:06,028 --> 00:57:08,894
she's playing strip. Yeah, yeah,

932
00:57:09,022 --> 00:57:12,414
yeah. So she's definitely not this, like, straight edge.

933
00:57:12,462 --> 00:57:16,046
Like, if you actually watch the movie, especially Alice in

934
00:57:16,078 --> 00:57:19,950
detail to this movie, like, she likes to party and get fucked up and fuck

935
00:57:20,110 --> 00:57:23,254
as much as everybody else. Well, another point about that,

936
00:57:23,302 --> 00:57:26,910
because that was a big thing after this movie came out, and I've never understood

937
00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:30,430
it. And the women who worked on this

938
00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:33,982
movie also do not understand it. Yeah. Alice is.

939
00:57:34,046 --> 00:57:37,558
Is a strong character, too. She's a very independent character.

940
00:57:37,614 --> 00:57:40,976
Like, she clearly makes her own decisions and does what she

941
00:57:41,008 --> 00:57:44,072
wants to do. So she's not a straight edge. She's not,

942
00:57:44,096 --> 00:57:47,760
like, a weak, submissive woman. I just don't

943
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,360
get that, how this is, like, an anti woman movie. I've never

944
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,896
understood that narrative, and neither have the people who made the movie.

945
00:57:54,928 --> 00:57:58,968
Yeah, I will say, man, she does a lot of, like, facial expressions

946
00:57:59,024 --> 00:58:02,448
that reminds me of Alison Hannigan. They have a lot

947
00:58:02,464 --> 00:58:05,992
of similar, like, facial movements. I tell you

948
00:58:06,016 --> 00:58:09,608
this. I may or may not agree with you because I don't know

949
00:58:09,624 --> 00:58:13,656
who the fuck that is because I can't remember names to save my life.

950
00:58:13,768 --> 00:58:17,192
I forgot my own name this morning. Oh. She was in

951
00:58:17,256 --> 00:58:21,192
Buffy the vampire slayer. She was. She's known for the. I stuck

952
00:58:21,216 --> 00:58:24,304
a flute up my pussy. Okay. Yeah,

953
00:58:24,472 --> 00:58:28,152
you got me the one time at Bandcamp. Yeah.

954
00:58:28,216 --> 00:58:32,420
I tried to. I tried to not start with that. No, she. She is.

955
00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:36,454
When I was younger, I found her very not

956
00:58:36,502 --> 00:58:40,022
attractive at all. Oh, she's super cute when I

957
00:58:40,046 --> 00:58:43,150
got older, man. She is. She's just got that, like,

958
00:58:43,310 --> 00:58:46,926
that cuteness about her that is.

959
00:58:46,998 --> 00:58:50,766
And I don't know if it's, like, her personality, it is very

960
00:58:50,838 --> 00:58:54,254
hard to pinpoint, but there's something special about her

961
00:58:54,422 --> 00:58:56,766
that a lot of. A lot of girls don't have.

962
00:58:56,878 --> 00:59:00,198
Yeah. I always thought she was really cute when I seen her on Buffy,

963
00:59:00,254 --> 00:59:03,618
but then when, you know, I got older. I was like, mom.

964
00:59:03,674 --> 00:59:07,106
No, she's actually, like, pretty hot. Yeah.

965
00:59:07,138 --> 00:59:10,122
She always plays these characters with a lot of personality. Like,

966
00:59:10,146 --> 00:59:13,434
she's. She has. She. She's a

967
00:59:13,442 --> 00:59:16,850
very funny personality. She's kind of quirky.

968
00:59:16,890 --> 00:59:20,122
She plays quirky sometimes, but it comes off as attractive.

969
00:59:20,226 --> 00:59:22,590
It does, it does. She's,

970
00:59:23,130 --> 00:59:26,162
she's special. I don't know, I'm not obsessed with her,

971
00:59:26,186 --> 00:59:30,106
but she's just got something different from what a lot of girls

972
00:59:30,138 --> 00:59:33,532
have. So anyway, as they are sitting around the

973
00:59:33,556 --> 00:59:36,820
table, we see the cabin door burst open from the wind.

974
00:59:36,940 --> 00:59:40,140
Bill jumps up and pulls it shut. Just then,

975
00:59:40,300 --> 00:59:44,268
Brenda conveniently remembers that she left

976
00:59:44,324 --> 00:59:47,740
her cabin windows open and says good night

977
00:59:47,780 --> 00:59:50,756
to Alice and Bill as she runs into the storm.

978
00:59:50,828 --> 00:59:53,908
Boom. I call bullshit on this.

979
00:59:54,084 --> 00:59:58,088
She was down to her bra and panties and she

980
00:59:58,144 --> 01:00:01,664
knew one more roll of the dice, them titties

981
01:00:01,712 --> 01:00:05,648
was coming out. Yeah. How you gonna suggest playing a strip

982
01:00:05,704 --> 01:00:08,944
game and then roll out when you are conveniently

983
01:00:08,992 --> 01:00:12,136
down to your bra and panties? I don't know if you noticed, but she had

984
01:00:12,168 --> 01:00:15,520
the least amount of clothes on. Yeah, she was losing.

985
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:19,080
Yeah. Don't, don't, you know, step forward and suggest

986
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,488
playing a strip game and then back out when, when it's time to take the

987
01:00:22,504 --> 01:00:26,152
clothes off. She bailed on the threesome. Like if you're gonna play,

988
01:00:26,296 --> 01:00:29,600
you gotta play. If you're gonna be the one to suggest the

989
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,096
game, you definitely gotta play. Like you think that normally

990
01:00:33,128 --> 01:00:36,144
the one that suggests playing the game, it wants to get naked.

991
01:00:36,232 --> 01:00:39,440
Yeah. Yeah, she bailed on purpose that.

992
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,872
Oh, I forgot, I left my fucking windows open and it's been

993
01:00:42,896 --> 01:00:46,520
raining for 2 hours. But I just noticed that. Yeah, bullshit. Yeah Brenda,

994
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,872
you suck for that. We then jump on over to the diner

995
01:00:49,936 --> 01:00:53,466
and I just want to point out, we get the outside shot of the parking

996
01:00:53,498 --> 01:00:56,810
lot first and we see that green jeep we see Annie

997
01:00:56,850 --> 01:01:00,530
got into earlier just sitting there. So this is what we're saying

998
01:01:00,570 --> 01:01:04,410
earlier, is Steve the killer? Oh, also I paused

999
01:01:04,490 --> 01:01:07,922
this movie to kind of write some stuff at this

1000
01:01:07,946 --> 01:01:12,098
scene. And I got this fucking hilarious picture.

1001
01:01:12,274 --> 01:01:15,390
We actually, huh, yeah,

1002
01:01:15,850 --> 01:01:19,442
I got a, I got a point to make about her fucking waitress. What the

1003
01:01:19,466 --> 01:01:22,872
I, yeah, I got a. Point to make about the waitress. But going back to

1004
01:01:22,896 --> 01:01:27,264
the jeep, we actually see Steve's green jeep earlier in the movie.

1005
01:01:27,392 --> 01:01:30,992
It's just a lot closer. Is way closer. Yeah. So it's hard to

1006
01:01:31,016 --> 01:01:34,368
tell, but if you look really close, it is the same green jeep. It doesn't

1007
01:01:34,384 --> 01:01:38,120
have the top but on either. Yeah. Now is we get,

1008
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,488
I mean obviously if it's gonna rain, you're gonna put the top on your jeep.

1009
01:01:41,664 --> 01:01:45,104
Now we get a better, a better view of it. Now going

1010
01:01:45,152 --> 01:01:48,900
back to the waitress, is that the same fucking lady

1011
01:01:49,020 --> 01:01:52,540
from the remake of the Texas Chainsaw massacre?

1012
01:01:52,660 --> 01:01:56,460
Old lady that takes the baby. The old

1013
01:01:56,500 --> 01:01:59,596
big lady. I think that's her. I could be.

1014
01:01:59,628 --> 01:02:02,956
And I remember watching that movie and thinking, God, how did.

1015
01:02:02,988 --> 01:02:06,540
How is this lady an actress? Maybe she's known for being

1016
01:02:06,580 --> 01:02:09,788
in movies or movies back in the day, so they.

1017
01:02:09,844 --> 01:02:13,578
Somebody brought her in on that. Oh, no. Have to look and see point.

1018
01:02:13,724 --> 01:02:17,838
Wanted to look that up. I thought maybe you would know. She definitely

1019
01:02:18,014 --> 01:02:21,646
looks like that lady. I had to take that. Cheers. Because she looked like

1020
01:02:21,678 --> 01:02:24,998
she just ate a warhead. Yeah. And it

1021
01:02:25,014 --> 01:02:28,286
was her just standing there, like, counting money or something. She ate

1022
01:02:28,318 --> 01:02:31,862
a baby. But basically all that happens in this scene is

1023
01:02:31,886 --> 01:02:35,142
Steve pays for his food and despite the storm, he gets in his jeep and

1024
01:02:35,166 --> 01:02:38,862
drives back to the camp. Next up, we see Brenda arrive at

1025
01:02:38,886 --> 01:02:42,132
the bathroom cabin where she starts to brush her teeth

1026
01:02:42,156 --> 01:02:45,500
and get ready for bed. When she then looks over towards the

1027
01:02:45,540 --> 01:02:49,540
shower area after hearing a noise, you would think there

1028
01:02:49,580 --> 01:02:53,828
would be a ton of fucking blood right there. Considering somebody

1029
01:02:53,884 --> 01:02:57,156
very recently got an axe to the face. There is

1030
01:02:57,188 --> 01:03:00,476
fine. Yeah, this killer is really good at cleaning.

1031
01:03:00,548 --> 01:03:03,932
Yeah. I will actually look for blood on the ground. And it's hard to

1032
01:03:03,956 --> 01:03:07,552
tell because you could see their wet footprints, but there's no blood. Back to

1033
01:03:07,576 --> 01:03:11,020
the waitress real quick. So it's not the woman from

1034
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,568
the Texas Chainsaw massacre remake. This is actually Sally

1035
01:03:15,624 --> 01:03:19,256
Ann golden, and she died in 1982. Oh, well, she wasn't

1036
01:03:19,288 --> 01:03:23,088
even close. Yeah, she died two years later. Yeah, she died very soon

1037
01:03:23,144 --> 01:03:25,992
after the making of this movie. Oh, well, I guess it'd be like three years.

1038
01:03:26,016 --> 01:03:28,832
This is 79. Came out in 80. This was the last,

1039
01:03:28,896 --> 01:03:32,880
biggest big movie that she did. Oh, well, rest in peace to

1040
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,722
you, waitress lady. Yes.

1041
01:03:35,906 --> 01:03:39,482
So now you should feel great about taking an awful screenshot

1042
01:03:39,506 --> 01:03:43,154
of her. I feel like she's laughing from heaven. So while

1043
01:03:43,202 --> 01:03:46,746
she is brushing her teeth, we then get a quick glimpse of the killer's

1044
01:03:46,778 --> 01:03:50,202
hand as they move the shower curtain. As she

1045
01:03:50,226 --> 01:03:54,210
is finishing up, Brenda then hears another noise from the shower area.

1046
01:03:54,370 --> 01:03:58,050
But she's like, nah, fuck it, I'm leaving. It's not worth my

1047
01:03:58,090 --> 01:04:01,502
time. Honestly, man, this would be

1048
01:04:01,526 --> 01:04:04,806
my reaction. I'm not investigating shit by myself.

1049
01:04:04,998 --> 01:04:08,530
I'm out. I don't really care enough. Especially,

1050
01:04:09,310 --> 01:04:12,502
and you know this from personal experience, once I'm tired,

1051
01:04:12,646 --> 01:04:16,054
I'm done. I'm done with whatever the fuck's going on. I'm going to bed.

1052
01:04:16,142 --> 01:04:19,918
I'm out. Yeah, yeah, I agree. And I think

1053
01:04:19,974 --> 01:04:23,150
coming up here in a minute when she starts hearing a voice call

1054
01:04:23,190 --> 01:04:27,144
out to her, I was like, hmm, this place is either haunted

1055
01:04:27,232 --> 01:04:30,296
or there's something going on out there. But I'm not going out in the rain

1056
01:04:30,328 --> 01:04:33,504
to fucking figure out what it is, you know, what's going to sleep. What's funny

1057
01:04:33,552 --> 01:04:36,904
here is this killer, like, if you, if you, if you

1058
01:04:37,072 --> 01:04:39,740
changed camera views and you were watching the killer,

1059
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:44,656
this killer keeps making these noises, trying to move the shower curtain

1060
01:04:44,728 --> 01:04:48,232
all to, like, lure Brenda back there and she doesn't

1061
01:04:48,256 --> 01:04:51,240
fall for it. And the killer's like, come on. Come on,

1062
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:55,232
bitch. Come on. I'm moving the shower curtain. Come on. You know what? Brenda is

1063
01:04:55,296 --> 01:04:59,564
preoccupied thinking about how embarrassed she was for suggesting

1064
01:04:59,612 --> 01:05:02,732
playing strip monopoly and then chickening out right before she

1065
01:05:02,756 --> 01:05:06,780
had to get naked. She's like, they know. They know. They know. My fucking window

1066
01:05:06,820 --> 01:05:10,292
wasn't open. That was dumb. I didn't think of something better than that.

1067
01:05:10,476 --> 01:05:14,356
The killer trying to lure her in, not being successful

1068
01:05:14,388 --> 01:05:17,612
at multiple things. It just reminds me of something from, like, scary movie

1069
01:05:17,716 --> 01:05:21,140
when he's, like, hiding behind the curtain and she's like, I can see your

1070
01:05:21,180 --> 01:05:24,852
legs with his feet. Kicking on

1071
01:05:24,876 --> 01:05:28,260
the couch. So next we see Steve's jeep

1072
01:05:28,300 --> 01:05:31,876
break down. And very conveniently, a cop pulls up right as

1073
01:05:31,908 --> 01:05:35,500
this happens. And Steve asks for a ride back to the camp, to which

1074
01:05:35,540 --> 01:05:38,764
the officer agrees. So now we see

1075
01:05:38,812 --> 01:05:42,284
that the killer has followed Brenda back to her cabin after

1076
01:05:42,412 --> 01:05:45,916
she failed to give a shit about the noises in the shower room.

1077
01:05:46,108 --> 01:05:49,724
We get this legendary pov shot that I think

1078
01:05:49,812 --> 01:05:53,028
a lot of the Friday the 13th films are known for.

1079
01:05:53,084 --> 01:05:56,904
But this becomes kind of missing in the later movies,

1080
01:05:56,952 --> 01:06:01,152
and I really wish they'd bring this back. Yeah, the pov

1081
01:06:01,216 --> 01:06:04,592
is really what made this movie so

1082
01:06:04,656 --> 01:06:08,056
special is we got a lot of perspective

1083
01:06:08,088 --> 01:06:11,736
of the killer. I could be wrong, but I don't think there's a

1084
01:06:11,768 --> 01:06:15,288
single pov shot in, like, say, the remake.

1085
01:06:15,464 --> 01:06:18,896
No, I don't do any of that. No, they do. They do some,

1086
01:06:18,968 --> 01:06:22,392
some pov shots in the movies that followed this. Yeah.

1087
01:06:22,416 --> 01:06:26,150
But they eventually stopped. I want to say they probably stop around,

1088
01:06:26,650 --> 01:06:29,790
I don't know, maybe like three, four or something.

1089
01:06:30,370 --> 01:06:33,426
They, I know they have it in two. I know they do. So I think

1090
01:06:33,458 --> 01:06:36,922
it goes on a little later. I know this was a big thing,

1091
01:06:36,986 --> 01:06:40,418
a big shot that was used a lot in the eighties, and a

1092
01:06:40,434 --> 01:06:44,226
lot of it influenced from this movie. I want to

1093
01:06:44,258 --> 01:06:48,306
say it got less and less as the movies went

1094
01:06:48,338 --> 01:06:51,436
on. But I think when new Line took over and

1095
01:06:51,588 --> 01:06:55,292
we got, yeah, we got Jason goes to hell, everything from that

1096
01:06:55,316 --> 01:06:58,756
point on, we don't get any pov shots. I think it's

1097
01:06:58,788 --> 01:07:01,844
one of the. I think it's one of the staples of

1098
01:07:01,932 --> 01:07:05,364
the franchise, though. It's. And I really miss it. I really wish

1099
01:07:05,412 --> 01:07:09,100
it would come back. I hope when they do the show

1100
01:07:09,260 --> 01:07:12,460
that they bring that back, because that they really need to bring

1101
01:07:12,500 --> 01:07:16,044
that back. That and the music, you know, when the killers

1102
01:07:16,092 --> 01:07:19,346
around, like, they need to bring a. That's another. It's another thing.

1103
01:07:19,378 --> 01:07:23,378
That new line lost was a lot of the music. Yeah. Actually lost

1104
01:07:23,434 --> 01:07:26,554
the name. They could. They bought the character rights, but they didn't buy the name

1105
01:07:26,602 --> 01:07:29,930
rights, which is why after Manhattan, they're not called

1106
01:07:29,970 --> 01:07:33,698
Friday the 13th anymore. They're just always based around Jason.

1107
01:07:33,874 --> 01:07:37,338
But you can definitely tell from all

1108
01:07:37,354 --> 01:07:41,170
the way up to Manhattan. And then when you start it, Jason goes to hell.

1109
01:07:41,250 --> 01:07:45,676
The feel is much different under new lawn than it was under Paramount.

1110
01:07:45,858 --> 01:07:49,600
Yeah. That's another reason. Kind of why when we did dream warriors,

1111
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:53,336
I talked about Freddy. Freddy versus Jason is a kind of

1112
01:07:53,368 --> 01:07:56,792
a Freddy, more of a Freddy movie to me, because it really pays a

1113
01:07:56,816 --> 01:08:00,040
lot more homage to Freddy than, say, like,

1114
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,264
especially earlier Jason. We don't get any of this stuff that

1115
01:08:03,312 --> 01:08:07,496
made these earlier movies, you know, Friday the 13th movies.

1116
01:08:07,688 --> 01:08:10,920
So the killer is watching Brenda through her window,

1117
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,512
where they see her lay down in bed and begin to read

1118
01:08:14,536 --> 01:08:18,224
a book, when suddenly she hears a child's voice

1119
01:08:18,312 --> 01:08:22,096
yell, help me. She then grabs her flashlight and begins to

1120
01:08:22,128 --> 01:08:25,792
investigate. And as she heads outside, we hear the voice again,

1121
01:08:25,896 --> 01:08:29,344
begging for someone to help. And this causes Brenda to run

1122
01:08:29,392 --> 01:08:32,904
out into the storm like a dumbass. Brenda starts,

1123
01:08:32,952 --> 01:08:36,520
like, chasing the voice, where she ends up all the way at the

1124
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,941
archery range. And as she begins to look around, we see

1125
01:08:39,965 --> 01:08:43,117
the killer turn the. Turn all of the lights on, on the range,

1126
01:08:43,213 --> 01:08:46,549
essentially blinding Brenda. She then begins to

1127
01:08:46,589 --> 01:08:49,677
back up as she realizes this isn't a joke.

1128
01:08:49,813 --> 01:08:53,341
The camera then cuts away, and we hear a loud scream from

1129
01:08:53,365 --> 01:08:56,821
her. I don't really understand why they

1130
01:08:56,845 --> 01:09:00,157
did not show us this kill. I don't get it.

1131
01:09:00,333 --> 01:09:03,645
Yeah, I don't know. There's really no. I mean, the only

1132
01:09:03,677 --> 01:09:06,221
thing I could think of is, like, was they trying to paint her as a

1133
01:09:06,245 --> 01:09:09,862
red herring. But then when you think this whole scene, you know, you know she's

1134
01:09:09,886 --> 01:09:13,542
not the killer. So I don't understand why they didn't show us

1135
01:09:13,566 --> 01:09:16,686
Brenda's death scene. Yeah, like, it would be

1136
01:09:16,718 --> 01:09:19,822
pretty simple. They almost. They literally filmed everything

1137
01:09:19,926 --> 01:09:23,438
up until death scene and then kind of cut that. So I don't

1138
01:09:23,454 --> 01:09:26,422
know. I don't know what happened. Here. Yeah, they. I mean, they still could have

1139
01:09:26,446 --> 01:09:30,190
had her body thrown through the window. It wouldn't really make. No,

1140
01:09:30,310 --> 01:09:33,942
it would have been the same. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know

1141
01:09:33,966 --> 01:09:37,590
what the. The creative decision behind not

1142
01:09:37,630 --> 01:09:40,910
showing it was. And it may have been budget.

1143
01:09:41,210 --> 01:09:44,882
Budget constraints. I know that they were shooting

1144
01:09:44,906 --> 01:09:48,570
this very fast. They could have not paid that cop that showed up on

1145
01:09:48,610 --> 01:09:52,330
that motorcycle and used that money to kill her.

1146
01:09:52,450 --> 01:09:55,738
Yeah. Would have been a great trade off. Hey, you know,

1147
01:09:55,834 --> 01:09:58,874
not everything could be perfect. That would have been a great

1148
01:09:58,922 --> 01:10:02,306
trade off. So we then jump back on over to.

1149
01:10:02,378 --> 01:10:05,934
They could literally how much money they spent on renting that motorcycle.

1150
01:10:06,122 --> 01:10:09,134
I think. I think it would have been awesome had they killed her with.

1151
01:10:09,182 --> 01:10:12,610
With a bow on the archery range. Because they do.

1152
01:10:12,990 --> 01:10:16,238
One of the first shots we get of her is when Ned almost

1153
01:10:16,294 --> 01:10:20,262
shoots her with the arrow on the archery range, which is foreshadowing

1154
01:10:20,446 --> 01:10:23,966
this. This moment where she gets hit with the lights on the

1155
01:10:23,998 --> 01:10:27,766
archery range. And that's obviously when she gets killed. I also

1156
01:10:27,838 --> 01:10:31,558
wonder if maybe there was something that maybe got cut out

1157
01:10:31,654 --> 01:10:35,174
for rating purposes. Yeah, that's. Maybe. Maybe it was filmed and

1158
01:10:35,222 --> 01:10:38,934
it just wasn't able to be used. So we then jump back

1159
01:10:38,982 --> 01:10:42,486
on over to Alice and Bill. And Alice tells Bill that she thinks

1160
01:10:42,518 --> 01:10:45,798
that she heard Brenda scream and that someone turned on the lights at

1161
01:10:45,814 --> 01:10:49,254
the archery range. So then Bill and Alice decide to

1162
01:10:49,342 --> 01:10:52,862
go check it out. They soon arrive at Brenda's cabin, where they

1163
01:10:52,886 --> 01:10:56,422
find it empty, except for a bloody

1164
01:10:56,486 --> 01:10:59,746
axe laying in Brenda's bed. Next, they head

1165
01:10:59,778 --> 01:11:04,066
on over to Jack, Ned, and Marcys cabin, where they also find it empty.

1166
01:11:04,258 --> 01:11:07,698
This puts Alice on alert, and she informs Bill that they need to

1167
01:11:07,714 --> 01:11:11,066
call for help. They then run on over to the main office,

1168
01:11:11,138 --> 01:11:14,170
where Alice breaks in, only to find that

1169
01:11:14,210 --> 01:11:17,430
the phone is dead and the line has been cut.

1170
01:11:17,850 --> 01:11:21,482
They then try to leave the camp by vehicle, but as they attempt to

1171
01:11:21,506 --> 01:11:25,460
start the truck, it doesnt work. Bill's explanation of

1172
01:11:25,500 --> 01:11:29,324
this is that the engine must be wet. No,

1173
01:11:29,372 --> 01:11:32,440
I actually think this was really good attention to detail.

1174
01:11:32,740 --> 01:11:35,964
So he pops the hood to try to find out why it won't start,

1175
01:11:36,052 --> 01:11:39,252
which was a waste, because obviously he knows nothing about cars,

1176
01:11:39,396 --> 01:11:42,356
but he tells her, I don't know, it's wet.

1177
01:11:42,548 --> 01:11:45,780
Which tells me that the killer

1178
01:11:45,820 --> 01:11:49,092
had popped the hood previous to that and did something under the hood.

1179
01:11:49,156 --> 01:11:52,622
And it rained under there. It got wetland. Had they

1180
01:11:52,646 --> 01:11:55,998
not really catch that? Yeah, I just was latched on to, like,

1181
01:11:56,094 --> 01:11:59,518
Bill's an idiot. Bill is an idiot. But an

1182
01:11:59,574 --> 01:12:03,014
idiot in the sense that if I popped that hood and seen it was wet,

1183
01:12:03,142 --> 01:12:07,070
I would have known immediately that somebody had tampered with the vehicle.

1184
01:12:07,230 --> 01:12:10,398
But I thought that was really good attention to detail, that they put that,

1185
01:12:10,454 --> 01:12:13,894
that line in there and think about it that way. So Alice then

1186
01:12:13,942 --> 01:12:17,832
says that they should just leave on foot, but Bill shoots this down by saying

1187
01:12:17,966 --> 01:12:21,324
that there is a simple explanation to all this, and they will be laughing

1188
01:12:21,372 --> 01:12:24,508
about it tomorrow. As he reassures Alice,

1189
01:12:24,564 --> 01:12:28,420
he then kisses her on the cheek romantically. All these

1190
01:12:28,460 --> 01:12:31,924
dudes are just continuously touching and kissing on Alice.

1191
01:12:32,092 --> 01:12:35,636
Poor Alice. Yeah. We then jump on over to Steve

1192
01:12:35,708 --> 01:12:39,572
and the cop, and while discussing the full moon on Friday the 13th,

1193
01:12:39,676 --> 01:12:43,076
the officer gets an urgent call to report to a bad wreck and

1194
01:12:43,108 --> 01:12:46,608
decides to drop Steve off and have him walk the rest of

1195
01:12:46,624 --> 01:12:49,920
the way to the camp. So a little while later, Steve makes

1196
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:53,168
his way to the camp entrance, when suddenly a person

1197
01:12:53,224 --> 01:12:57,056
with a flashlight steps out from behind the sign, shining the

1198
01:12:57,088 --> 01:13:01,032
light in Steve's face. Steve then walks closer when

1199
01:13:01,056 --> 01:13:04,340
he quickly realizes he knows this person,

1200
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:07,888
he then greets them and asks what they are doing out in the storm,

1201
01:13:07,984 --> 01:13:11,708
when suddenly he gets stabbed in the stomach. I think

1202
01:13:11,764 --> 01:13:15,396
it is something I never caught. It's worth mentioning,

1203
01:13:15,548 --> 01:13:19,212
in the cop car right before this. So when they

1204
01:13:19,236 --> 01:13:22,716
show him in the car, we now know for sure there's no way Steve has

1205
01:13:22,748 --> 01:13:26,660
been doing it. Yeah, everybody's been dying. But the cop mentions

1206
01:13:26,740 --> 01:13:30,460
that Ralph's wife was a nervous wreck until we got him

1207
01:13:30,500 --> 01:13:33,852
home. So we now know that they got Ralph home.

1208
01:13:33,956 --> 01:13:37,564
So now the two red herrings, the two suspects we know were

1209
01:13:37,612 --> 01:13:40,526
red herrings, that it couldn't have been either one of them too.

1210
01:13:40,628 --> 01:13:43,602
Yeah. And, you know,

1211
01:13:43,706 --> 01:13:47,394
I think one of the big, surprising moments of this,

1212
01:13:47,522 --> 01:13:51,122
which is a really good thing to add in, is Steve's interaction with

1213
01:13:51,146 --> 01:13:54,914
the killer. When you realize, holy fuck, Steve knows this

1214
01:13:54,962 --> 01:13:58,282
person. And, you know, you don't instantly think, as a

1215
01:13:58,306 --> 01:14:01,618
viewer, this is someone he knows that's not in the,

1216
01:14:01,674 --> 01:14:05,250
in the story. You immediately think, oh, this is somebody

1217
01:14:05,290 --> 01:14:08,354
we've seen. And it's such a great way to throw

1218
01:14:08,402 --> 01:14:11,282
you off. Yeah. So, yeah,

1219
01:14:11,426 --> 01:14:14,538
with Brenda's death, and it's clearly a woman

1220
01:14:14,594 --> 01:14:17,962
that's calling out to her that lures her out of the cabin.

1221
01:14:18,146 --> 01:14:21,250
And then the Steve's reaction,

1222
01:14:21,330 --> 01:14:25,138
we know that it's more than likely somebody that Steve knows

1223
01:14:25,274 --> 01:14:28,658
and that this isn't somebody who is. Is very

1224
01:14:28,714 --> 01:14:32,346
threatening, and we know it's more than likely a woman based off of

1225
01:14:32,378 --> 01:14:35,828
the. Their voices. So that's pretty much all the clues we have at

1226
01:14:35,844 --> 01:14:38,972
this point. This is really a great way

1227
01:14:39,076 --> 01:14:42,560
to set up who is the killer. Like a whodunit.

1228
01:14:42,900 --> 01:14:46,116
They did a really good job with this. And this is

1229
01:14:46,148 --> 01:14:49,436
why it makes sense of why the movie was such

1230
01:14:49,468 --> 01:14:53,060
a big hit. So next we see that it has finally

1231
01:14:53,100 --> 01:14:56,388
stopped storming around the lake and everything is nice and calm.

1232
01:14:56,524 --> 01:15:00,092
We jump to the POv again, where we see the killer enter the generator

1233
01:15:00,156 --> 01:15:03,854
room and shut off all the power around the camp, and it instantly

1234
01:15:03,902 --> 01:15:07,486
becomes pitch blackout. Alice and Bill are now back

1235
01:15:07,518 --> 01:15:10,574
up at the main cabin, where Bill lights some lanterns.

1236
01:15:10,702 --> 01:15:14,022
Bill thinks that the generator is probably just out of gas and

1237
01:15:14,046 --> 01:15:17,470
decides to go check it out. Alice offers to come with him,

1238
01:15:17,550 --> 01:15:21,462
but he declines, telling Alice to just try to get some sleep.

1239
01:15:21,646 --> 01:15:25,038
And this is a good thing because Alice needs to regain some

1240
01:15:25,054 --> 01:15:28,680
of that energy for the final girls showdown with the killer the

1241
01:15:28,830 --> 01:15:32,308
of this movie. But she gets that fucking power nap in notice

1242
01:15:32,364 --> 01:15:35,828
she does. She pops up, ready to go. Bill then arrives

1243
01:15:35,884 --> 01:15:39,612
at the generator room only to discover that it is full of gas.

1244
01:15:39,756 --> 01:15:43,748
While Bill attempts to figure out what is wrong with the generator, we jump

1245
01:15:43,804 --> 01:15:47,636
back to Alice, where we get a way too long of a

1246
01:15:47,668 --> 01:15:51,492
scene of her making coffee, where she eventually decides to

1247
01:15:51,516 --> 01:15:54,498
go find Bill. This is a long fucking scene.

1248
01:15:54,684 --> 01:15:57,970
Yep. And you know what bothered me about this scene?

1249
01:15:58,270 --> 01:16:01,646
Alice does not screw the coffee lid back on correctly.

1250
01:16:01,678 --> 01:16:05,622
No, it's like lopsided. I'm like, why would you do such a

1251
01:16:05,646 --> 01:16:09,614
thing? Cause she's thinking, man. She's like, I gotta save Bill again,

1252
01:16:09,702 --> 01:16:12,974
I guess. This whole time, I guess they show us the scene. Cause she's like

1253
01:16:13,022 --> 01:16:15,622
going through her head if she's gonna go look for Bill or not. And I'm

1254
01:16:15,646 --> 01:16:19,022
like, I mean, you could have cut this shit down by like half. And we

1255
01:16:19,046 --> 01:16:23,262
now know Bill is not very mechanically inclined

1256
01:16:23,326 --> 01:16:26,946
based off of the car. And I don't know how complicated generators

1257
01:16:27,018 --> 01:16:30,690
were back then, but there's only so many things that could go wrong on it.

1258
01:16:30,810 --> 01:16:34,482
And his troubleshooting at the generator obviously did

1259
01:16:34,506 --> 01:16:38,330
not go very well. He comes back and he says, the generator is,

1260
01:16:38,370 --> 01:16:41,634
uh, wet. It's not.

1261
01:16:41,682 --> 01:16:44,994
I don't know. It's not working. But we'll laugh about it later.

1262
01:16:45,082 --> 01:16:48,346
This all be funny. She then heads to the generator

1263
01:16:48,418 --> 01:16:51,778
room, where at first she only finds the door wide open,

1264
01:16:51,874 --> 01:16:55,260
Bill's poncho and his lantern. After shouting his

1265
01:16:55,300 --> 01:16:58,916
name a few times, she gives up. And as she goes to leave,

1266
01:16:59,028 --> 01:17:03,068
she pulls the door closed, only to find Bill's body

1267
01:17:03,164 --> 01:17:06,516
stuck to the back of the door, bloody and

1268
01:17:06,588 --> 01:17:08,560
full of arrows.

1269
01:17:11,180 --> 01:17:14,412
When I was a kid, this is the scene

1270
01:17:14,516 --> 01:17:18,388
that stuck out to me. I do not know why, but this was the,

1271
01:17:18,444 --> 01:17:22,080
like, screenshot that my brain held

1272
01:17:22,470 --> 01:17:25,942
for years and years and years. I don't know.

1273
01:17:25,966 --> 01:17:29,830
I have no idea why. It's him being on that door when she

1274
01:17:29,990 --> 01:17:34,062
swings the door and he's just full of arrows is like my main.

1275
01:17:34,206 --> 01:17:38,678
My main memory of the film. That's interesting. Mine was always Jack,

1276
01:17:38,854 --> 01:17:42,606
aka Kevin Bacon, getting the arrow through his throat.

1277
01:17:42,678 --> 01:17:46,646
Well, and so here's, here's the reason, I think, why the ours is

1278
01:17:46,678 --> 01:17:50,376
different. Because the first, like five times I seen it

1279
01:17:50,488 --> 01:17:54,100
was on cable. Yeah. And they didn't show that scene.

1280
01:17:54,440 --> 01:17:57,760
Yeah, I remember not seeing that scene till later. Yeah.

1281
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,264
Also the axe to the face. I don't think I seen that either.

1282
01:18:01,432 --> 01:18:04,960
Marcy is Marcia. Yeah. Yeah, that, that one always stuck

1283
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,552
out too. Yeah. I don't think that they showed that either. I think

1284
01:18:08,576 --> 01:18:11,640
they showed the lead up, like, to it, but they don't, they don't go back

1285
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,848
and show that scene where she falls back and kind of slides down with the

1286
01:18:14,864 --> 01:18:18,340
axe in her face. But we did see the bill on the door.

1287
01:18:18,460 --> 01:18:21,532
So I think that's why we have kind of different.

1288
01:18:21,716 --> 01:18:25,700
Different kind of memories of that man. They really like, you know,

1289
01:18:25,820 --> 01:18:28,000
whoever this killer is,

1290
01:18:28,500 --> 01:18:31,684
slit his throat, pinned him to the wall, and then

1291
01:18:31,732 --> 01:18:34,892
shot him up with like five different arrows. This killer does not

1292
01:18:34,916 --> 01:18:38,468
like nice guys. Does not. This killer

1293
01:18:38,484 --> 01:18:41,840
is very aggravated at his lack of mechanical knowledge.

1294
01:18:43,350 --> 01:18:46,622
So Alice then freezes, like literally shooting arrows into,

1295
01:18:46,686 --> 01:18:50,486
like, how about that bill? Is it just wet? That arrow just wet.

1296
01:18:50,638 --> 01:18:54,358
So Alice then freaks the fuck out and runs off into the dark woods.

1297
01:18:54,454 --> 01:18:57,566
She finally makes it back to the main cabin and we see that

1298
01:18:57,598 --> 01:19:00,982
the lights are now back on. She then barricades the door

1299
01:19:01,046 --> 01:19:04,606
using a rope and using a rope to tie it closed.

1300
01:19:04,718 --> 01:19:08,428
She then grabs a baseball bat and kind of hunkers down in the kitchen.

1301
01:19:08,614 --> 01:19:12,240
And as soon as she begins to calm down, we suddenly see Brendas

1302
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:16,280
dead body come flying through the window. This fucks

1303
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:19,776
Alice up. And she begins to freak out again. And just as

1304
01:19:19,808 --> 01:19:23,184
she makes it to the living room of the cabin, she spots the

1305
01:19:23,232 --> 01:19:26,700
headlights of what she assumes is Steves jeep.

1306
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:30,576
She quickly runs outside but is stopped in her tracks when

1307
01:19:30,608 --> 01:19:34,164
she realizes it is not Steve getting out of the jeep.

1308
01:19:34,312 --> 01:19:38,560
No, it is just a nice older lady in a clean white sweater.

1309
01:19:39,020 --> 01:19:43,036
Alice then asks who she is and the older lady answers that she

1310
01:19:43,148 --> 01:19:47,120
is misses Voorhees an old friend of the Christies.

1311
01:19:47,460 --> 01:19:51,668
Alice then runs to her as they share a hug while Alice cries hysterically

1312
01:19:51,724 --> 01:19:55,660
into the ladys shoulder. So Alice then begins telling

1313
01:19:55,700 --> 01:19:58,836
her about the murders and misses Voorhees then asks

1314
01:19:58,868 --> 01:20:02,406
her to show her. They then walk into the house where

1315
01:20:02,438 --> 01:20:05,654
misses Voorhees finds Brenda's dead body. And she

1316
01:20:05,742 --> 01:20:08,494
is shocked by this. She says,

1317
01:20:08,622 --> 01:20:11,290
what monster could have did this,

1318
01:20:11,750 --> 01:20:15,446
I wonder? So misses Voorhees then starts

1319
01:20:15,478 --> 01:20:18,830
blaming it on the camp and saying how Steve should have never

1320
01:20:18,870 --> 01:20:22,526
tried to reopen it. She then informs Alice about the young

1321
01:20:22,598 --> 01:20:26,206
boy who drowned in the lake a year before the other counselors

1322
01:20:26,278 --> 01:20:29,536
were murdered. She says that the counselors werent

1323
01:20:29,568 --> 01:20:33,980
paying any attention to the drowning boy cause they were too busy fucking,

1324
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:37,896
which, of course, resulted in the boys death.

1325
01:20:38,088 --> 01:20:41,900
She then reveals that the boys name was Jason.

1326
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:46,736
She then explains that she was a cook at the camp at the time,

1327
01:20:46,888 --> 01:20:50,360
and she was busy preparing meals for the campers. She then

1328
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,696
grabs Alice by the shoulders and violently shakes her as she

1329
01:20:53,728 --> 01:20:57,402
says, Jason should have been watched every minute because

1330
01:20:57,466 --> 01:21:00,946
he wasn't a very good swimmer. And you can tell

1331
01:21:01,018 --> 01:21:04,938
here that she's a little too

1332
01:21:05,114 --> 01:21:08,562
emotional about this, unless, you know,

1333
01:21:08,746 --> 01:21:11,978
maybe she was close to the boy.

1334
01:21:12,154 --> 01:21:15,442
And this becomes very obvious very quickly that this was not

1335
01:21:15,466 --> 01:21:19,242
just some random camper. Yeah. Betsy Palmer

1336
01:21:19,306 --> 01:21:22,674
is absolutely amazing as Pamela war. He's here,

1337
01:21:22,762 --> 01:21:26,404
like, slowly dissolving any shred of

1338
01:21:26,452 --> 01:21:30,444
normalcy as she dives into this, like, psychotic void.

1339
01:21:30,612 --> 01:21:33,892
And this is the first time I've really noticed

1340
01:21:34,036 --> 01:21:38,052
the influence of Psycho in this movie. Oh, yeah. It's very

1341
01:21:38,156 --> 01:21:41,796
opposite of Psycho. It is the exact opposite. Yeah, the poles

1342
01:21:41,828 --> 01:21:45,252
are flipped, but the, the mental breakdown

1343
01:21:45,316 --> 01:21:49,028
that she goes to as she goes from, like, normal and

1344
01:21:49,124 --> 01:21:53,040
slowly falls into that psychotic void. I thought

1345
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:57,680
her, her portrayal as Pamela Laboorhees

1346
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,992
is a big part of what made this movie, this success,

1347
01:22:01,136 --> 01:22:04,872
the ending of this movie, so successful. Yeah. I'm so

1348
01:22:04,936 --> 01:22:08,600
glad because, you know, a lot of people know the story that she didn't really

1349
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,448
want to do the movie. She thought it was a piece of shit. Yeah.

1350
01:22:11,544 --> 01:22:14,808
She literally just did it because she basically got paid ten,

1351
01:22:14,864 --> 01:22:18,160
$10,000. She said, nobody will ever see it. Yeah.

1352
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,048
And she needed a new car and she needed the ten grand and thought no

1353
01:22:21,064 --> 01:22:24,334
one would ever see this movie. But I'm really glad that she

1354
01:22:24,382 --> 01:22:27,630
came around and became a big fan of

1355
01:22:27,670 --> 01:22:31,542
the fans and of the franchise and really started

1356
01:22:31,606 --> 01:22:34,774
going to conventions and really became. She needed

1357
01:22:34,822 --> 01:22:38,990
another new car, probably. She even, like, created a whole backstory

1358
01:22:39,110 --> 01:22:43,190
for. For misses Voorhees. And it

1359
01:22:43,310 --> 01:22:46,422
really makes a lot of sense. She would go to conventions and do panels where

1360
01:22:46,446 --> 01:22:49,930
she would explain this whole backstory that she had, and it was great.

1361
01:22:50,290 --> 01:22:53,402
Yeah. You know, she talks about a

1362
01:22:53,426 --> 01:22:58,090
lot of the parents at conventions. Really? Like, that was the main

1363
01:22:58,130 --> 01:23:01,346
group of people that would come to her and that the parents would always tell

1364
01:23:01,378 --> 01:23:04,826
them, you know, we understand, you know, somebody who

1365
01:23:04,938 --> 01:23:08,346
had a kid that something like that happened to how that

1366
01:23:08,378 --> 01:23:11,682
could drive you to being psychotic.

1367
01:23:11,866 --> 01:23:15,274
This kind of really shows the influence that this

1368
01:23:15,322 --> 01:23:19,050
had on, like, my bloody Valentine, too, which is

1369
01:23:19,090 --> 01:23:23,026
a very similar premise of this horrible thing happening

1370
01:23:23,178 --> 01:23:26,794
and this person doing whatever he can to stop this

1371
01:23:26,842 --> 01:23:30,802
Valentine's dance from becoming a thing again. And for

1372
01:23:30,866 --> 01:23:34,138
years he tries to sabotage it until there's a murder. And then,

1373
01:23:34,154 --> 01:23:37,666
of course, the son ends up doing what he can because his parents were

1374
01:23:37,698 --> 01:23:40,434
killed as a result of this. But, yeah,

1375
01:23:40,602 --> 01:23:44,002
definitely you can see the influences in this part,

1376
01:23:44,066 --> 01:23:48,374
and then you can also see how this influenced cinema going forward.

1377
01:23:48,562 --> 01:23:51,878
My bloody Valentine, super underrated movie.

1378
01:23:51,974 --> 01:23:54,958
Yeah, I agreed. Agreed. This should have.

1379
01:23:55,014 --> 01:23:58,750
It should have maybe not had as big of a franchise as

1380
01:23:58,790 --> 01:24:02,150
Friday the 13th, but it should have had a way bigger thing than

1381
01:24:02,190 --> 01:24:05,590
what it was. Well, yeah, they took a lot of things.

1382
01:24:05,670 --> 01:24:09,502
I think it was. They were trying to capitalize on the success of Friday

1383
01:24:09,566 --> 01:24:13,038
the 13th. That doesn't take away from the fact that it was a

1384
01:24:13,054 --> 01:24:16,832
good movie. The same as Friday the 13th was trying to

1385
01:24:16,936 --> 01:24:20,456
capitalize on the success of Halloween, and nobody

1386
01:24:20,488 --> 01:24:23,744
takes away from Friday the 13th for that. She then

1387
01:24:23,792 --> 01:24:27,128
tries to calm herself a bit before telling Alice that they

1388
01:24:27,144 --> 01:24:30,992
can leave now. But when the camera jumps back to Alice, she's freaked

1389
01:24:31,016 --> 01:24:34,808
the fuck out by this lady. And she tells her that on second

1390
01:24:34,864 --> 01:24:38,472
thought, maybe we should just wait for Steve. Misses Voorhees,

1391
01:24:38,536 --> 01:24:42,540
shoots that shit down. And then we see her stare off into the

1392
01:24:42,580 --> 01:24:46,404
distance and we get this, like, flashback shot of a little

1393
01:24:46,452 --> 01:24:49,540
boy screaming for help for his. From his mother

1394
01:24:49,660 --> 01:24:54,132
while in the water. I love the way the water looks.

1395
01:24:54,276 --> 01:24:57,924
It's like just black and blue. Yeah, they did a really cool kind of color

1396
01:24:57,972 --> 01:25:01,324
thing with the water here. Misses Voorhees then

1397
01:25:01,372 --> 01:25:04,556
says, I am Jason. And this is where it

1398
01:25:04,588 --> 01:25:08,700
becomes, apparently, that Jason was her son.

1399
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:12,776
She then looks right into alices eyes and tells her that Jason

1400
01:25:12,848 --> 01:25:16,416
was her son and today is his birthday.

1401
01:25:16,608 --> 01:25:20,296
She then alludes to the fact that she killed Steve and that she

1402
01:25:20,328 --> 01:25:24,016
could not let them reopen the camp again after what

1403
01:25:24,088 --> 01:25:27,512
happened to her son. She then loses her mind as

1404
01:25:27,536 --> 01:25:31,520
she looks at Alice and says that she let her son drown because she

1405
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:35,412
wasnt paying attention. She's basically confusing Alice

1406
01:25:35,476 --> 01:25:39,452
for, you know, one of the counselors back in the fifties. I think

1407
01:25:39,476 --> 01:25:43,020
she's just like some severe PTSD flashback

1408
01:25:43,060 --> 01:25:46,468
thing going on. That's what I love about this scene. Is it,

1409
01:25:46,524 --> 01:25:50,160
like I said, she does such a good job showing her

1410
01:25:50,540 --> 01:25:54,800
deep dive into. From. From seeming normal to slowly

1411
01:25:55,100 --> 01:25:58,604
deep diving into the psychotic madness. And you can

1412
01:25:58,652 --> 01:26:02,030
tell that, but, you know, it wasn't about the killing for her.

1413
01:26:02,150 --> 01:26:06,038
It was like the next year. But she actually spent years trying

1414
01:26:06,094 --> 01:26:09,670
to prevent it from even coming this close to being open again.

1415
01:26:09,790 --> 01:26:13,450
So this is something she's been struggling with for a long time.

1416
01:26:13,910 --> 01:26:17,014
She, after 62, the whole lake thing,

1417
01:26:17,182 --> 01:26:20,062
she probably didn't have to worry about it because it's clear the camp hasn't been

1418
01:26:20,086 --> 01:26:23,502
touched for ten or 15 years at least. And now

1419
01:26:23,526 --> 01:26:27,078
it's coming back to her and it's probably hitting her even ten times

1420
01:26:27,134 --> 01:26:30,866
harder. So she walks towards Alice as she then pulls out

1421
01:26:30,898 --> 01:26:34,618
her big ass hunting knife. She then runs full speed at Alice

1422
01:26:34,674 --> 01:26:38,042
with the knife raised when Alice then fucks her up with a fire

1423
01:26:38,106 --> 01:26:40,754
poker, temporarily knocking her out.

1424
01:26:40,922 --> 01:26:44,570
Alice then takes off running out of the cabin and straight

1425
01:26:44,610 --> 01:26:48,170
for the jeep. But when she opens the door, she immediately

1426
01:26:48,210 --> 01:26:51,658
freaks out by the sight of Annie's dead body in the passenger

1427
01:26:51,714 --> 01:26:55,266
seat. She then says, fuck this. I'm out, as she takes

1428
01:26:55,298 --> 01:26:59,012
off towards the woods. But as soon as she enters the wood line,

1429
01:26:59,076 --> 01:27:02,732
we see Steve Christie's body drop down in front of her.

1430
01:27:02,876 --> 01:27:05,480
This is where Jason gets it from. Yeah,

1431
01:27:05,940 --> 01:27:09,364
because we see that mother like. Son for so many movies.

1432
01:27:09,412 --> 01:27:12,836
That's another thing I think is missing from kind of the newer Jason

1433
01:27:12,908 --> 01:27:16,636
movies. Is the body drop scenes is rigging up his

1434
01:27:16,788 --> 01:27:19,996
surprise traps, which we've brought. Up so many times. But that

1435
01:27:20,028 --> 01:27:23,788
one where she trips that trap early and he looks. That's the tree

1436
01:27:23,804 --> 01:27:26,956
like. Fuck. Part seven where he's,

1437
01:27:27,028 --> 01:27:30,460
he's like, he's rigging out there rigging some shit up.

1438
01:27:30,500 --> 01:27:33,796
And then he hears it and looks over and he's like, what the fuck?

1439
01:27:33,868 --> 01:27:37,108
Yeah, he's rigging the last body. I just set that shit up.

1440
01:27:37,164 --> 01:27:40,708
Yeah. Misses Voorhees then exits the cabin in pursuit

1441
01:27:40,724 --> 01:27:43,940
of Alice. And this is where we see that she kind of

1442
01:27:43,980 --> 01:27:47,684
has like a split personality thing going on here because she

1443
01:27:47,732 --> 01:27:51,006
starts speaking in a child's voice, saying, kill her,

1444
01:27:51,038 --> 01:27:53,886
mommy. Kill her. Kill her,

1445
01:27:53,918 --> 01:27:56,130
mommy. Kill her.

1446
01:27:57,550 --> 01:28:01,130
Don't let her get away, mommy. Don't let her live.

1447
01:28:01,710 --> 01:28:05,090
I won't, Jason. I won't.

1448
01:28:05,630 --> 01:28:09,646
That's where the iconic Jason noise comes from.

1449
01:28:09,678 --> 01:28:13,966
The. Friday the 13th. Yeah, it was the k

1450
01:28:14,038 --> 01:28:17,982
from kill and the m from mommy. Yeah, we've run through a delay.

1451
01:28:18,086 --> 01:28:20,750
Is basically an echo. Yeah,

1452
01:28:20,870 --> 01:28:24,590
it's. And you can cut that out. Oh, the.

1453
01:28:24,670 --> 01:28:28,030
Oh, the editor was gonna. It's gonna fucking take. Take that shit

1454
01:28:28,070 --> 01:28:31,262
right out. You can. You can actually put the actual sound over it.

1455
01:28:31,286 --> 01:28:33,694
And then. And then I'll take credit for it.

1456
01:28:33,862 --> 01:28:36,838
Alice then runs into a cabin and finds a gun.

1457
01:28:36,894 --> 01:28:40,214
And while. While misses Voorhees runs to the generator room

1458
01:28:40,302 --> 01:28:43,710
and turns the lights back on, which is kind of confusing

1459
01:28:43,750 --> 01:28:46,290
because the lights in the cabin were already on the.

1460
01:28:47,060 --> 01:28:50,788
I don't get that. Before Alice can find the bulletstone

1461
01:28:50,844 --> 01:28:54,188
misses Voorhees walks into the cabin and tells her it

1462
01:28:54,204 --> 01:28:58,180
will be easier for her than it was for jason. We then hear

1463
01:28:58,220 --> 01:29:01,356
her speak in the child's voice again, saying, kill her,

1464
01:29:01,388 --> 01:29:05,204
mommy. Kill her. Misses Voorhees then smacks Alice

1465
01:29:05,252 --> 01:29:09,084
like a fucking abusive husband a bunch of times before

1466
01:29:09,172 --> 01:29:12,764
throwing her through a table. And as she goes to pull alice

1467
01:29:12,812 --> 01:29:16,486
off the ground. This next part is fucking great.

1468
01:29:16,678 --> 01:29:20,406
Alice grabs the rifle and hits. Misses Voorhees

1469
01:29:20,478 --> 01:29:23,806
right in the coochie, which causes her to grab her

1470
01:29:23,838 --> 01:29:27,150
vagin pain. Yeah, all that

1471
01:29:27,190 --> 01:29:30,710
hair didn't. Didn't soften the blow enough. Oh, my God.

1472
01:29:30,750 --> 01:29:33,982
I remember, like, I was a teenager the first time I noticed she hit her

1473
01:29:34,006 --> 01:29:37,326
in the vag with that thing. And I was like, damn. She just.

1474
01:29:37,478 --> 01:29:40,886
She just fucked her up. She just. She just cootercracked. She just cooter

1475
01:29:40,918 --> 01:29:44,134
cracked her. Like, I didn't even really think that that was, like, a.

1476
01:29:44,222 --> 01:29:47,078
That painful of a thing. Usually she almost, like a guy when he gets hit

1477
01:29:47,094 --> 01:29:50,334
in the balls. Yeah. Fucks her up. Like,

1478
01:29:50,382 --> 01:29:53,318
fucks are up. What's funny is this fight scene here.

1479
01:29:53,374 --> 01:29:57,990
So the Betsy Palmer came from, like, a stage,

1480
01:29:58,150 --> 01:30:01,454
like, background. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they actually would hit each other.

1481
01:30:01,502 --> 01:30:04,678
Yeah, they would have a scene. So the first scene that they shot,

1482
01:30:04,734 --> 01:30:07,684
Betsy Palmer said she, like, fucked her up.

1483
01:30:07,862 --> 01:30:11,456
And the actress that played Alice was like, oh, my God.

1484
01:30:11,528 --> 01:30:15,740
Oh. She dropped to the ground and cried and yelled for Sean Cunningham.

1485
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:19,392
And Sean Cunningham's like, what the fuck are you doing? And she's, like,

1486
01:30:19,456 --> 01:30:22,648
practicing the scene or something. Betsy, we don't do it. Like,

1487
01:30:22,744 --> 01:30:25,340
no, we. We miss people here.

1488
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,840
She. Then. She then hits her in the face with the gun,

1489
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:32,180
knocking her out again before running off into the darkness.

1490
01:30:32,480 --> 01:30:36,096
Alice then tries to hide in a dark cabin, but of course, she gets

1491
01:30:36,128 --> 01:30:39,440
found. Now, this is interesting. This is the.

1492
01:30:39,480 --> 01:30:43,100
As many times I've watched this, this is the first time I noticed this.

1493
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:47,176
Misses Voorhees chops through the door with

1494
01:30:47,208 --> 01:30:51,000
an ax and sticks her face through the broken

1495
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:54,760
part of the door. What other famous horror

1496
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:58,048
movie is known for that? Got it. Here's Johnny. I put it in

1497
01:30:58,064 --> 01:31:02,240
my notes, which. Came out the same goddamn

1498
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:05,536
year. Yep. Never, never put those two together.

1499
01:31:05,608 --> 01:31:08,776
What a coincidence that is. Yeah. Two of the greatest horror

1500
01:31:08,808 --> 01:31:12,408
movies have the same scene and they came out

1501
01:31:12,424 --> 01:31:15,584
at the same time. Here's Pamela.

1502
01:31:15,632 --> 01:31:18,060
Johnny. That's what I put in my notes.

1503
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:21,712
I did. I didn't realize that they came out the exact same year. I actually

1504
01:31:21,776 --> 01:31:25,128
thought that the Shining came out a year too

1505
01:31:25,224 --> 01:31:28,904
prior. No, they both work. Yeah. I did come across a thing where

1506
01:31:29,072 --> 01:31:31,864
how many good horror, big horror movies had come out that year.

1507
01:31:31,912 --> 01:31:34,832
And the shining was one of the movies it kind of went against.

1508
01:31:35,016 --> 01:31:38,704
Damn. So she tries to chop Alice with the axe.

1509
01:31:38,752 --> 01:31:42,220
Alex ducks that shit, and then she bashes mister,

1510
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:45,688
misses Voorhees in the face with a frying pan,

1511
01:31:45,864 --> 01:31:49,248
knocking her out again. And I just want to point out this is

1512
01:31:49,264 --> 01:31:53,208
the third fucking time she has knocked her unconscious in

1513
01:31:53,224 --> 01:31:57,112
like ten minutes. Yeah, you probably should just kept going

1514
01:31:57,256 --> 01:32:00,336
after the first time. I hate that in horror movies.

1515
01:32:00,488 --> 01:32:03,856
That's one big complaint. That's in a ton of horror movies.

1516
01:32:03,968 --> 01:32:07,072
Like when you get the killer down, just finish them

1517
01:32:07,096 --> 01:32:10,392
off. Finish them off. Just beat them to fucking death right there

1518
01:32:10,456 --> 01:32:13,340
in the movie. Or cut their hands off,

1519
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:17,152
you know? Shit. If they come back as

1520
01:32:17,176 --> 01:32:20,936
zombies, what they're gonna do? Nub you to death. Yeah, I'm cutting

1521
01:32:20,968 --> 01:32:24,900
head off. You always got to be prepared for zombie to come back.

1522
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:27,540
That, you know, learn that from the evil dead.

1523
01:32:28,410 --> 01:32:31,626
Alice then runs to the lake where she begins prepping

1524
01:32:31,658 --> 01:32:35,050
a canoe in order to escape. But soon she sees misses

1525
01:32:35,090 --> 01:32:38,306
Borges reflection behind her in the water. As she

1526
01:32:38,338 --> 01:32:41,338
turns around, she almost gets chopped with a machete.

1527
01:32:41,474 --> 01:32:44,802
She then uses a canoe oar to knock the machete out of misses

1528
01:32:44,826 --> 01:32:48,970
Voorhees hand. But misses Voorhees grabs her and manages

1529
01:32:49,010 --> 01:32:52,578
to get the oar from her and hits her with it, knocking Alice

1530
01:32:52,634 --> 01:32:56,128
to the ground. They then both end up on the ground fighting

1531
01:32:56,224 --> 01:32:59,440
as misses Voorhees begins strangling her. They then

1532
01:32:59,480 --> 01:33:03,056
roll around and fight some more before Alice finally gets free and

1533
01:33:03,088 --> 01:33:06,328
grabs the machete. We then get a slow

1534
01:33:06,424 --> 01:33:09,824
motion shot of Alice running full speed

1535
01:33:09,872 --> 01:33:14,128
towards misses Voorhees, chopping her fucking head clean

1536
01:33:14,184 --> 01:33:18,016
off with the machete. And as her head goes flying,

1537
01:33:18,208 --> 01:33:21,704
we see her now, headless body's hands come up and

1538
01:33:21,752 --> 01:33:25,694
shakes her fists like, no. I've been defeated,

1539
01:33:25,782 --> 01:33:28,370
and her big, hairy man hands.

1540
01:33:29,430 --> 01:33:33,406
Aliston smiles and drops the machete,

1541
01:33:33,598 --> 01:33:37,250
climbs inside the canoe and drifts out to the water.

1542
01:33:37,550 --> 01:33:41,094
The next morning, we see Alice passed out from exhaustion,

1543
01:33:41,142 --> 01:33:44,822
just floating in the middle of the now calm lake. She wakes

1544
01:33:44,846 --> 01:33:47,902
up to find two police officers standing on the shore.

1545
01:33:48,086 --> 01:33:51,454
And as she looks in their direction, we suddenly see

1546
01:33:51,622 --> 01:33:55,262
a decayed, deformed boy come up out of the water

1547
01:33:55,406 --> 01:33:58,290
and grab her, dragging her under.

1548
01:33:58,790 --> 01:34:02,814
She then wakes up from a nightmare in the hospital where

1549
01:34:02,902 --> 01:34:06,734
a nurse and a doctor try to calm her down. A police officer then

1550
01:34:06,782 --> 01:34:10,262
walks over and begins to talk to Alice. She asks if

1551
01:34:10,286 --> 01:34:13,054
all her friends are dead, and he informs her that,

1552
01:34:13,102 --> 01:34:16,662
yes, she was the only survivor. She then asks

1553
01:34:16,686 --> 01:34:20,626
about the boy named Jason. And the cop with a confused look on his face

1554
01:34:20,758 --> 01:34:24,350
says, they didn't find any boy. What if

1555
01:34:24,730 --> 01:34:28,066
the cop was like, no, but we did

1556
01:34:28,098 --> 01:34:31,682
find that woman that you murdered on the shore of the lake. And also all

1557
01:34:31,706 --> 01:34:35,350
your friends murdered while you were doped up on marijuana.

1558
01:34:35,650 --> 01:34:38,818
And you're now being charged with multiple counts of murder and drug

1559
01:34:38,874 --> 01:34:42,242
use. That's actually probably not too far

1560
01:34:42,306 --> 01:34:45,834
from. What it actually literally pinned it on her. They would have had quite

1561
01:34:45,882 --> 01:34:48,970
some questions after that. Well, they're like, we know you're smoking

1562
01:34:49,010 --> 01:34:52,318
marijuana and you went crazy and you killed everybody.

1563
01:34:52,394 --> 01:34:55,934
And good luck convincing that. Convincing the police that

1564
01:34:56,022 --> 01:34:59,998
all these other people were murdered by this old woman. And Alice's fingerprints

1565
01:35:00,014 --> 01:35:04,102
are on the gun. They're on the machete. They're probably on the fucking ax.

1566
01:35:04,286 --> 01:35:08,030
I mean, they're on all kinds of weapons at this point. The shit back then,

1567
01:35:08,070 --> 01:35:11,438
I feel like they're like, oh, we don't even need fingerprints. She's the only

1568
01:35:11,494 --> 01:35:14,398
person alive. She had to kill everybody. She tried to escape of the canoe.

1569
01:35:14,414 --> 01:35:18,150
She was smoking pot. She tried to escape in the canoe, got high,

1570
01:35:18,190 --> 01:35:21,470
and fell asleep before she got away. Too much of that

1571
01:35:21,510 --> 01:35:24,724
columbian golden, that, the hash that we need,

1572
01:35:24,812 --> 01:35:28,292
dig it. Yeah, this story could

1573
01:35:28,316 --> 01:35:31,660
have went a complete different direction, but, yeah, the cop

1574
01:35:31,700 --> 01:35:35,100
says they didn't find any boy, and the room goes silent before

1575
01:35:35,140 --> 01:35:38,668
we get a close up of Alice's face as she says,

1576
01:35:38,844 --> 01:35:42,964
then he's still there. And that is the end

1577
01:35:43,132 --> 01:35:46,380
of Friday the 13th, man. That the.

1578
01:35:46,420 --> 01:35:50,104
The big ending with the. The Jason jumping out of

1579
01:35:50,112 --> 01:35:53,840
the boat and grabbing her, I think is. Is a big

1580
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:57,232
part of what had a massive effect on people for the end of

1581
01:35:57,256 --> 01:36:00,900
this. This was not in the original script,

1582
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:05,032
and I don't think the movie was complete without it. But one thing I noticed

1583
01:36:05,056 --> 01:36:08,088
when watching it, and I know they talked about it

1584
01:36:08,104 --> 01:36:10,640
in the documentary a little bit, but the fucking.

1585
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:14,022
The music amplified this, the score.

1586
01:36:14,216 --> 01:36:17,810
This is the. Literally the only time we have a positive

1587
01:36:17,930 --> 01:36:20,970
music. It's very soothing. Yeah. Very soothing.

1588
01:36:21,010 --> 01:36:24,690
Very positive music. But. And they drag it out for so

1589
01:36:24,770 --> 01:36:28,738
fucking long, and it just makes that. That reveal,

1590
01:36:28,834 --> 01:36:32,570
that jump out of the water so much better. Yeah.

1591
01:36:32,650 --> 01:36:35,850
Tom Savini used to go to theaters at the very

1592
01:36:35,930 --> 01:36:39,322
end of the movie and sit in there just to watch people's reaction to the

1593
01:36:39,346 --> 01:36:43,038
scene. I do remember being a kid, and that's that getting

1594
01:36:43,094 --> 01:36:46,166
me. Yeah. Like, it got me. It was. It was a jump scare that got

1595
01:36:46,198 --> 01:36:49,238
me. Did you know that the. The sound back.

1596
01:36:49,334 --> 01:36:52,446
Back then, the movie weren't. It wasn't balanced as good

1597
01:36:52,478 --> 01:36:56,142
either. So you always have to turn the tv way up because the low parts

1598
01:36:56,166 --> 01:37:00,926
are so low. So whenever they had that loud score

1599
01:37:00,998 --> 01:37:03,610
go on, when he jumps out of the water, it's just.

1600
01:37:04,470 --> 01:37:08,148
I remember it getting me pretty good. So the

1601
01:37:08,204 --> 01:37:12,240
question that I have been wanting to ask you for so long,

1602
01:37:13,340 --> 01:37:17,644
do you think Pamela Voorhees knew

1603
01:37:17,812 --> 01:37:21,644
about the camp reopening beforehand or did

1604
01:37:21,692 --> 01:37:25,172
she find out when she picked up Annie? What if

1605
01:37:25,196 --> 01:37:28,596
she had no fucking idea? She picks up Annie and Annie

1606
01:37:28,628 --> 01:37:32,646
tells her about this job at the camp, and she's like, them goddamn

1607
01:37:32,678 --> 01:37:36,454
bastards are gonna open it again. I gotta get there tonight and

1608
01:37:36,502 --> 01:37:39,974
start killing people. That. That is. That's a good

1609
01:37:40,022 --> 01:37:43,502
theory. Yeah. Like, like she, you know, they live out kind of

1610
01:37:43,526 --> 01:37:46,662
in the middle of nowhere. The only towns 20 miles away.

1611
01:37:46,726 --> 01:37:50,358
Obviously, she, you know, it doesn't seem like she lives there. She may live,

1612
01:37:50,534 --> 01:37:53,782
you know, 30, 40 minutes away or something from

1613
01:37:53,806 --> 01:37:58,046
the camp. She has no fucking idea. See, Christie's there. Make, like, redoing it.

1614
01:37:58,198 --> 01:38:02,502
Well, also, so after the murders in 57

1615
01:38:02,646 --> 01:38:05,926
or 58, the year after jason drowned,

1616
01:38:06,118 --> 01:38:09,222
every year after that, she. Whenever they're going to

1617
01:38:09,246 --> 01:38:12,566
reopen, she starts fires. She sabotages

1618
01:38:12,638 --> 01:38:16,646
the water in the wake. She always does something before it

1619
01:38:16,678 --> 01:38:20,966
gets to this point where she has to kill people. And that's probably

1620
01:38:21,038 --> 01:38:24,302
her mental side, not wanting to have to kill people.

1621
01:38:24,366 --> 01:38:27,370
So she tries to shut it down before it gets to this point.

1622
01:38:27,670 --> 01:38:31,190
And. Yeah, I think that's. That's a really good theory.

1623
01:38:31,230 --> 01:38:34,950
I thought you were going to come out with, like, a plot twist. Steve was

1624
01:38:34,990 --> 01:38:38,366
actually. He actually murdered

1625
01:38:38,518 --> 01:38:41,894
her. And that was him in the jeep. And no,

1626
01:38:41,942 --> 01:38:45,222
like, if you think about it, you know, if she wanted to

1627
01:38:45,246 --> 01:38:48,438
shut the camp down, that's her goal. She could

1628
01:38:48,454 --> 01:38:52,262
just went, killed Steve Christie. Any other time over the year she. Would just went

1629
01:38:52,286 --> 01:38:55,908
and set the cabins on fire again. You know, was, you know, one person would

1630
01:38:55,924 --> 01:38:58,708
have been all she'd had to do instead of doing all this. And it almost

1631
01:38:58,764 --> 01:39:02,028
makes sense of why once she picks Annie up, she starts hauling ass

1632
01:39:02,084 --> 01:39:04,160
because she's like, I've got to get on this now.

1633
01:39:04,660 --> 01:39:08,812
Yeah. And I always thought that was interesting. Maybe. Maybe Pamela

1634
01:39:08,836 --> 01:39:12,636
Voorhees was, you know, living her life as kind of a normal person

1635
01:39:12,788 --> 01:39:16,004
and she's just driving, you know, back to

1636
01:39:16,012 --> 01:39:19,380
her house or something. One day after getting supplies from the town, she picks this

1637
01:39:19,420 --> 01:39:22,694
girl up, is in the middle of nowhere. This girl tells her about the camp

1638
01:39:22,742 --> 01:39:26,894
reopening and she's like, oh, shit, I had no idea this was

1639
01:39:26,942 --> 01:39:30,566
happening. Yeah, yeah, I think that's a really good point. And that,

1640
01:39:30,598 --> 01:39:33,646
that's why I mentioned with the, her, like,

1641
01:39:33,758 --> 01:39:37,126
going super crazy is she more than likely

1642
01:39:37,198 --> 01:39:40,926
hasn't had to deal with this for 1718 years,

1643
01:39:40,958 --> 01:39:44,454
since 62. But we know based off of the condition

1644
01:39:44,502 --> 01:39:47,710
of the place, it's been at least ten or 15 years.

1645
01:39:47,790 --> 01:39:51,632
She got away with the murders, she got away with the arsone, she got

1646
01:39:51,656 --> 01:39:55,032
away with the whatever you call sabotaging water.

1647
01:39:55,216 --> 01:39:58,712
And, you know, she hasn't had to deal with this in

1648
01:39:58,776 --> 01:40:02,312
a really long time. You would think that if she knew

1649
01:40:02,336 --> 01:40:05,504
it was going to open beforehand, she would have done one of her old

1650
01:40:05,552 --> 01:40:09,616
tricks to avoid it getting this far. So I think it's a really good point.

1651
01:40:09,808 --> 01:40:12,936
Yeah, I've been wanting to talk about that for so

1652
01:40:12,968 --> 01:40:15,980
long. I just like had this epiphany of it and I was like,

1653
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:20,006
I need to run this by somebody, but I couldn't because I needed to

1654
01:40:20,038 --> 01:40:23,270
save it for this episode. Alright, so we'll run through some

1655
01:40:23,310 --> 01:40:26,406
facts. So, fun fact, Tom Savini actually

1656
01:40:26,478 --> 01:40:29,942
did the arrow shot in the scene where Brenda is setting up the target and

1657
01:40:29,966 --> 01:40:32,650
Ned almost hits her with the arrow. It's pretty cool.

1658
01:40:33,030 --> 01:40:36,886
Was she really standing there? Yeah. Yeah, man. Yeah, I guess he was just really

1659
01:40:36,918 --> 01:40:39,806
good with the bow for some reason. Really good with effects,

1660
01:40:39,838 --> 01:40:43,326
too. So because Betsy Palmer didn't arrive in New Jersey

1661
01:40:43,358 --> 01:40:46,692
until much later, a male stand in was put

1662
01:40:46,716 --> 01:40:49,804
in her place for all of the kill scenes. This person

1663
01:40:49,892 --> 01:40:53,412
was actually Tom Sabini's assistant, hence why all

1664
01:40:53,436 --> 01:40:56,640
of the kill scenes look like a guy, you know?

1665
01:40:57,540 --> 01:41:01,292
Yeah, that it's Tom Sabini's assistants. Hands that come up

1666
01:41:01,316 --> 01:41:05,340
when she's beheaded and they're clearly man hands. Like, they're hairy

1667
01:41:05,380 --> 01:41:09,116
man hands. Yeah, you know, I was thinking Betsy Palmer

1668
01:41:09,188 --> 01:41:12,556
because, you know, she. She started whooping Alice's ass.

1669
01:41:12,708 --> 01:41:16,140
And that first scene where they start fighting, when she got this

1670
01:41:16,180 --> 01:41:20,040
script, she was probably like, okay, I'm throw down.

1671
01:41:21,140 --> 01:41:24,492
As much as they fight in this movie, she's like, we're about. We're about to

1672
01:41:24,516 --> 01:41:28,120
fuck each other up. We're going to talk about this in a minute. The fighting.

1673
01:41:28,420 --> 01:41:31,660
So we're actually going to talk about it right now.

1674
01:41:31,820 --> 01:41:35,236
Speaking Tom Savini and fighting.

1675
01:41:35,428 --> 01:41:39,140
He was actually supposed to leave right before the last

1676
01:41:39,180 --> 01:41:42,606
few scenes for the movie were filmed, but he

1677
01:41:42,638 --> 01:41:46,126
decided last minute to stick around and watch the

1678
01:41:46,158 --> 01:41:49,646
fight scenes between Adrian King and Betsy Palmer.

1679
01:41:49,798 --> 01:41:53,930
And according to him, the fight scenes looked like shit.

1680
01:41:54,630 --> 01:41:58,062
And the actors also didn't do really a great job.

1681
01:41:58,206 --> 01:42:02,358
So he decided to stick around and completely re choreograph

1682
01:42:02,414 --> 01:42:05,950
the fight scenes and help the actors in making the moves

1683
01:42:05,990 --> 01:42:09,970
look believable. Apparently a lot of people say he saved

1684
01:42:10,130 --> 01:42:13,666
the fight scenes in the movie. Can we give Tom Savini a

1685
01:42:13,698 --> 01:42:17,018
Nobel Peace prize? She should. What else do

1686
01:42:17,034 --> 01:42:20,002
we give somebody for such awesome life achievements?

1687
01:42:20,106 --> 01:42:23,690
Like a lifetime achievement award? I feel like that's not big

1688
01:42:23,730 --> 01:42:26,390
enough. No, Nobel.

1689
01:42:26,810 --> 01:42:30,322
You don't have to call it a peace prize, just a Nobel prize. Just give

1690
01:42:30,346 --> 01:42:34,160
him something like, man deserves it. Film achievement award

1691
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:37,592
or something. He's done all this amazing stuff. He opened up

1692
01:42:37,616 --> 01:42:41,720
a fucking college in Pennsylvania that teaches

1693
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:45,856
just practical effect. I mean, the man has done so much for us.

1694
01:42:46,048 --> 01:42:48,300
So much for us. Now,

1695
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:51,864
I believe that the next part here is in the

1696
01:42:51,912 --> 01:42:56,032
screenplay. I don't know if they ever filmed it. So apparently,

1697
01:42:56,136 --> 01:43:00,150
despite the eleven year difference, Alice and Steve

1698
01:43:00,270 --> 01:43:03,958
did have a fling at one point, but she

1699
01:43:04,014 --> 01:43:07,718
soon put a stop to it in order to have an on off

1700
01:43:07,774 --> 01:43:11,230
sexual relationship with Bill. This is why both of them,

1701
01:43:11,270 --> 01:43:14,726
like, are romantic towards her. Yeah, makes sense. I could

1702
01:43:14,758 --> 01:43:18,622
see that. Yeah, I know. Another thing that was actually in

1703
01:43:18,646 --> 01:43:21,550
the screenplay, but got cut out due to, I guess,

1704
01:43:21,590 --> 01:43:25,150
time constraints was they actually show Betsy

1705
01:43:25,190 --> 01:43:29,288
Palmer earlier in the movie and she is missing a finger.

1706
01:43:29,454 --> 01:43:33,220
Yeah. And every time, in all the kill scenes, they show the hand

1707
01:43:33,300 --> 01:43:36,732
missing a finger. And it was supposed to be the one clue

1708
01:43:36,916 --> 01:43:40,780
that pointed towards who the killer was, but it was supposed to be like

1709
01:43:40,860 --> 01:43:44,172
such a small shot where you initially

1710
01:43:44,236 --> 01:43:47,964
see her finger missing that you would have to be like really

1711
01:43:48,052 --> 01:43:51,740
eagle eyed to actually catch it. But it ended up getting

1712
01:43:51,780 --> 01:43:55,520
cut out. So, yeah, she loses her finger killing

1713
01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:59,300
bill. And I believe

1714
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:03,728
that the reason it was taken out was Sean

1715
01:44:03,784 --> 01:44:07,760
Cunningham did not want any, any possible way

1716
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:11,080
for you to kind of piece together Betsy Palmer

1717
01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:14,352
being the killer. Betsy Palmer even tried to bring up, like, why don't

1718
01:44:14,376 --> 01:44:18,000
you just put her in the diner in the beginning and just

1719
01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:21,360
have just show her one time? So when you see her at the end,

1720
01:44:21,400 --> 01:44:24,816
it's like, oh, and he didn't want anything like

1721
01:44:24,848 --> 01:44:28,136
that. He wanted, he was pretty hard to the point where he didn't

1722
01:44:28,168 --> 01:44:31,720
want you to find out she was a killer until she says she's the killer.

1723
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:35,912
Yeah, yeah. And, you know, I'm not going to question him there, because the

1724
01:44:35,936 --> 01:44:39,248
movie was obviously a great success. But I

1725
01:44:39,304 --> 01:44:42,600
personally do wish that she would have been somewhere, just a

1726
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:46,648
small part, somewhere, even in the diner would have been a good idea.

1727
01:44:46,824 --> 01:44:50,340
Somewhere where we would have seen her at the end and we would have said,

1728
01:44:50,700 --> 01:44:54,348
oh, that. You know, I remember her. Yeah, I think the diner would have.

1729
01:44:54,364 --> 01:44:57,716
Been perfect because we give, they give us these red herrings

1730
01:44:57,748 --> 01:45:01,228
in the movie, but it's almost unfair to the viewer because

1731
01:45:01,284 --> 01:45:04,892
you don't ever actually get to guess who the killer is because they're not

1732
01:45:04,916 --> 01:45:08,156
in the movie. So I think it would have just made sense for her to

1733
01:45:08,188 --> 01:45:11,476
be just in the town. Like, when.

1734
01:45:11,508 --> 01:45:15,076
When in the beginning where the what's her name's going through the

1735
01:45:15,108 --> 01:45:18,372
town, the girl that's supposed to be the cook that gets killed

1736
01:45:18,396 --> 01:45:21,868
in the jeep, running out of the jeep, just somewhere in

1737
01:45:21,884 --> 01:45:25,444
the town in the background, maybe leaned up against a column

1738
01:45:25,492 --> 01:45:28,636
or in the diner somewhere. I do wish

1739
01:45:28,668 --> 01:45:32,340
they would have did that. So this next one is

1740
01:45:32,380 --> 01:45:36,316
about our favorite film critic, Gene Siskel.

1741
01:45:36,388 --> 01:45:39,756
Oh, God. You remember he did a bunch of fucked up shit when

1742
01:45:39,788 --> 01:45:43,638
maniac came out. Yeah, we talked about him. Yeah, I think I know what

1743
01:45:43,654 --> 01:45:47,094
you're about to talk about. Well, this tops that.

1744
01:45:47,262 --> 01:45:50,486
So when he wrote the review for this, because, of course,

1745
01:45:50,598 --> 01:45:54,750
he hated it. Yeah. He not only spoiled

1746
01:45:54,790 --> 01:45:58,570
the surprise ending for everyone on purpose,

1747
01:45:58,870 --> 01:46:03,078
but he also put Betsy Palmer's personal home address

1748
01:46:03,174 --> 01:46:06,502
in the newspaper, according to him,

1749
01:46:06,686 --> 01:46:10,690
in order for people to write her hate mail over the film.

1750
01:46:11,110 --> 01:46:14,726
I hope he is enjoying hell right now.

1751
01:46:14,838 --> 01:46:18,150
Yeah, fuck that guy. What a dick. All because

1752
01:46:18,230 --> 01:46:21,958
you didn't like a fucking movie. Yeah, to put.

1753
01:46:22,094 --> 01:46:26,302
To not like a movie is one thing to ruin it is a fucking

1754
01:46:26,366 --> 01:46:30,814
bastard thing to do. But to put somebody's personal address in

1755
01:46:30,822 --> 01:46:34,302
the fucking paper, specifically to

1756
01:46:34,366 --> 01:46:37,410
write them hate mail, like, dude, fuck that guy.

1757
01:46:37,910 --> 01:46:41,422
I hope he died of, like, fucking some type of ass

1758
01:46:41,486 --> 01:46:45,022
cancer. That hurts so bad. Somebody should post the address of

1759
01:46:45,046 --> 01:46:48,010
his grave so everyone go pee on it.

1760
01:46:48,990 --> 01:46:52,654
Yeah, I was thinking shit on it, but fuck

1761
01:46:52,702 --> 01:46:56,918
that guy. And last but not least, misses Voorhees,

1762
01:46:56,974 --> 01:47:00,534
as she is known in this film, didn't have her first

1763
01:47:00,622 --> 01:47:04,270
name, which is Pamela revealed, until a

1764
01:47:04,310 --> 01:47:07,450
shot of her gravesite in part four.

1765
01:47:07,830 --> 01:47:11,950
Isn't that weird? That is weird. That's why I didn't call her Pamela at all

1766
01:47:12,030 --> 01:47:15,254
when I did the plot, because at that time, no one,

1767
01:47:15,302 --> 01:47:19,150
for years after, no one knew her name was Pamela Voorhees. Just misses

1768
01:47:19,190 --> 01:47:22,582
Voorhees. Yeah, that was cool. That is weird, you know,

1769
01:47:22,606 --> 01:47:25,870
with these movies coming out so much before

1770
01:47:26,030 --> 01:47:29,718
our childhood and then they continued to come out as we grew up and.

1771
01:47:29,734 --> 01:47:33,326
And, you know, the majority of them being

1772
01:47:33,358 --> 01:47:37,010
when we were young kids or before we were born.

1773
01:47:37,390 --> 01:47:40,838
It's just weird thinking, like, knowing the whole franchise

1774
01:47:40,894 --> 01:47:44,942
and then realizing that that name wasn't an actual name until

1775
01:47:45,006 --> 01:47:47,782
the fucking fourth movie. Yeah.

1776
01:47:47,966 --> 01:47:51,190
Ratings and kill count. So we got a total

1777
01:47:51,270 --> 01:47:54,590
kills of ten. We have Barry, who was

1778
01:47:54,630 --> 01:47:58,082
stabbed in the stomach. We have Claudette, who I assume

1779
01:47:58,146 --> 01:48:01,234
was stabbed with a knife. Don't really know. Annie,

1780
01:48:01,282 --> 01:48:05,002
who had her throat slashed. Ned, who had his throat slashed.

1781
01:48:05,146 --> 01:48:08,194
Jack. Oh. Got an arrow through the neck. Marcy,

1782
01:48:08,242 --> 01:48:12,122
an axe to the face. Steve was stabbed in the chest.

1783
01:48:12,266 --> 01:48:16,074
Bill had arrows all over his body. I guess Brenda.

1784
01:48:16,202 --> 01:48:20,562
We don't fucking know how she died. And Pamela Voorhees, who was decapitated

1785
01:48:20,626 --> 01:48:24,244
by Alice. My favorite kill is

1786
01:48:24,292 --> 01:48:27,724
Jack, obviously. That's. You know, there's. There's.

1787
01:48:27,892 --> 01:48:31,084
That's a hands down. My second one is actually miss Voorhees,

1788
01:48:31,132 --> 01:48:34,212
though. I like the head chop. I dig it.

1789
01:48:34,356 --> 01:48:38,140
Okay. So. Well, I went with. With my favorite as being Pamela

1790
01:48:38,180 --> 01:48:42,052
voorhees. Whoa, you didn't go Jack. Yeah, I went with him as a close

1791
01:48:42,116 --> 01:48:46,332
second. Whoa. Pamela voorhees. Because the decapitation

1792
01:48:46,396 --> 01:48:49,978
was done so good. So I seen Tom Savini talk about.

1793
01:48:50,164 --> 01:48:55,090
They actually, like, put a lot of work into making the body

1794
01:48:55,870 --> 01:48:59,846
anatomically correct with the, like, esophagus and

1795
01:48:59,878 --> 01:49:03,814
the. Your jugular veins and stuff. Looks good.

1796
01:49:03,942 --> 01:49:07,518
So in the way they did it, they made the head. They made the body.

1797
01:49:07,694 --> 01:49:11,342
And he actually hit it with the machete. And on

1798
01:49:11,366 --> 01:49:15,190
the first try, the head flipped. Perfect. The fucking. Everything looked

1799
01:49:15,230 --> 01:49:19,380
so good that they were able to show this kill, a decapitation

1800
01:49:19,460 --> 01:49:22,948
in slow motion, and it still looked fucking amazing.

1801
01:49:23,044 --> 01:49:26,492
Yeah. Close second, though, being Jack, the, the arrow through

1802
01:49:26,516 --> 01:49:30,356
the neck is, is not only awesome, but the backstory

1803
01:49:30,428 --> 01:49:34,140
behind it with the pump malfunctioning and somebody

1804
01:49:34,180 --> 01:49:37,580
actually blowing the blood through and it coming out better. I thought that was awesome,

1805
01:49:37,620 --> 01:49:41,560
too. All right, so film rating.

1806
01:49:42,140 --> 01:49:44,840
I gave it. What do you think I gave this movie?

1807
01:49:45,300 --> 01:49:48,360
Um, I'm gonna think you gave it a five.

1808
01:49:50,260 --> 01:49:53,412
I did. My only issues,

1809
01:49:53,516 --> 01:49:57,388
only issues with this movie was they should have shown all the kills.

1810
01:49:57,524 --> 01:50:01,356
We should have seen, like, Brenda's kill. I'm okay with not seeing

1811
01:50:01,388 --> 01:50:04,812
bills because the reveal is cool. And then we didn't

1812
01:50:04,836 --> 01:50:08,132
see Claudette and we should have seen that Ned. We should

1813
01:50:08,156 --> 01:50:11,908
have seen. I'm on the fence with Ned because I really love the

1814
01:50:12,004 --> 01:50:15,220
reveal of Ned's death. Yeah, well, they could have, they could have still

1815
01:50:15,260 --> 01:50:19,008
shot that awesome cinematography shot of his body,

1816
01:50:19,144 --> 01:50:21,928
and we still could have got to see him get his throat cut. That's my

1817
01:50:21,944 --> 01:50:25,232
only complaint. Other than that, I think this is a perfect movie. Well,

1818
01:50:25,296 --> 01:50:29,120
your, your, your explanations very much

1819
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:33,240
shorter than mine. Okay. But this is my favorite franchise, so I

1820
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:37,000
wrote a book for it. I rated this a five. This definitely

1821
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:40,480
gets some bonus points with me for being the birth of my favorite

1822
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:44,206
slasher franchise. Hold on. Time out of. Is that your first five on this

1823
01:50:44,238 --> 01:50:47,290
show? No. No. You've had a five before.

1824
01:50:47,630 --> 01:50:50,302
You give them out a little less than I do. I give a little more.

1825
01:50:50,366 --> 01:50:53,590
I'm a little more lenient with my five. Rarely give out a five. I think

1826
01:50:53,630 --> 01:50:57,246
I gave the Exorcist a five. That's a perfect movie to me.

1827
01:50:57,398 --> 01:51:00,494
And then there was one other movie that we did. The evil dead,

1828
01:51:00,542 --> 01:51:03,614
I think is the only, the original evil dead. It's the only other

1829
01:51:03,662 --> 01:51:07,070
fives that I think I've given out. The,

1830
01:51:07,110 --> 01:51:10,646
the acting is fucking fantastic, especially Betsy

1831
01:51:10,678 --> 01:51:14,090
Palmer. The cinematography is fantastic.

1832
01:51:14,210 --> 01:51:17,282
You know, the whole POV from the killer was not

1833
01:51:17,306 --> 01:51:21,114
only huge for this movie, but it influenced a ton of movies going

1834
01:51:21,162 --> 01:51:24,530
forward. The special effects, obviously are

1835
01:51:24,570 --> 01:51:27,690
amazing. This is an incredible time

1836
01:51:27,810 --> 01:51:31,066
for practical effects in general. And the stuff that Tom

1837
01:51:31,098 --> 01:51:34,250
Savini was doing every time we cover one of his

1838
01:51:34,290 --> 01:51:38,010
movies was just, we literally, it almost gets repetitive

1839
01:51:38,130 --> 01:51:41,496
every kill, talking about how amazing. Yeah, we'd definitely

1840
01:51:41,528 --> 01:51:44,864
be stroking Tom Zavini's ego over here. I mean, but,

1841
01:51:44,992 --> 01:51:48,384
you know, how, how can we not covering a fucking.

1842
01:51:48,432 --> 01:51:52,896
With slashers being our favorite movie movies to cover the

1843
01:51:52,928 --> 01:51:56,472
ending's phenomenal. You know, I've always known of the Halloween

1844
01:51:56,576 --> 01:51:59,816
influence and the attempt to capitalize on this success.

1845
01:52:00,008 --> 01:52:02,912
This is the first time I really you know,

1846
01:52:03,056 --> 01:52:06,424
realized that the major influence from Psycho on

1847
01:52:06,472 --> 01:52:10,306
this movie. With that said so, it's very obvious that

1848
01:52:10,338 --> 01:52:14,106
this movie influenced a ton of movies going forward that

1849
01:52:14,138 --> 01:52:17,610
tried to capture the same magic. It's just. It's a fucking

1850
01:52:17,690 --> 01:52:21,426
absolute classic. The birth of one of the greatest horror franchises of

1851
01:52:21,458 --> 01:52:24,978
all time. You know, it's reach and influence

1852
01:52:25,034 --> 01:52:28,890
alone. It deserves a five. Yeah, this is a phenomenal movie.

1853
01:52:28,930 --> 01:52:32,578
Like I said, this is one of the few movies that I. I have to

1854
01:52:32,634 --> 01:52:36,428
watch once we get into September, October. It's. It really.

1855
01:52:36,594 --> 01:52:39,240
And I like to try to watch it earlier because I feel like it really

1856
01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:42,020
sets my mood for Halloween.

1857
01:52:43,240 --> 01:52:46,840
Even though we don't have zombie Jason in here. It is such

1858
01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:50,376
a fucking good movie. It's. It's got everything that makes

1859
01:52:50,408 --> 01:52:53,608
it classic minus, you know, Jason himself. But we had

1860
01:52:53,624 --> 01:52:57,140
the camp, we had the counselors. They're all getting killed different ways.

1861
01:52:57,640 --> 01:53:00,880
You know, it almost reminds me how we talked about, like, dream warriors

1862
01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:04,392
where that was the first movie where we seen Freddy kind of

1863
01:53:04,416 --> 01:53:08,154
kill people in the individual specific ways that tailor to them.

1864
01:53:08,312 --> 01:53:11,374
And this is a movie kind of in a similar fashion where

1865
01:53:11,502 --> 01:53:15,030
we kind of get that standard. Jason kills everyone in

1866
01:53:15,070 --> 01:53:18,726
different ways, use different weapons, and it sets

1867
01:53:18,758 --> 01:53:22,494
the tone. Even though Jason's not really here, it really sets the tone.

1868
01:53:22,622 --> 01:53:26,662
We get the bodies to fall. I mean, we get the pov,

1869
01:53:26,766 --> 01:53:30,126
we get everything. That's the tone. Yeah, that's something

1870
01:53:30,198 --> 01:53:33,390
that I didn't. I wrote so much, I didn't even mention the score. The score

1871
01:53:33,430 --> 01:53:37,380
is fucking iconic. And travel through all the paramount movies.

1872
01:53:37,460 --> 01:53:40,636
And it was a genius idea to kind of do what Jaws did,

1873
01:53:40,668 --> 01:53:43,900
where even though we don't, we don't get to see the killer. But what we

1874
01:53:43,940 --> 01:53:47,412
do get is music to, like, let us know that the

1875
01:53:47,476 --> 01:53:51,188
killer's here, the killer's around, which is a really great idea when you have

1876
01:53:51,204 --> 01:53:54,348
a movie that doesn't show your killer until the last, like, 30 minutes of the

1877
01:53:54,364 --> 01:53:58,332
movie. Great, great, fucking great movie. And it set

1878
01:53:58,436 --> 01:54:01,464
such a precedence over the next,

1879
01:54:01,652 --> 01:54:05,520
good God, 30, 30 something years or whatever. And that is the very reason

1880
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:08,464
I give it a five. So I will say whenever.

1881
01:54:08,592 --> 01:54:12,500
So always write my rating. And then I write out my explanation.

1882
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:15,928
I initially put down a 4.8. Do you know,

1883
01:54:15,944 --> 01:54:19,616
I'm very, very, very stingy with fives. It's got to be really,

1884
01:54:19,688 --> 01:54:23,664
really, really good for me to put a perfect movie in.

1885
01:54:23,832 --> 01:54:27,000
And very rarely do I type out my.

1886
01:54:27,080 --> 01:54:30,546
My reviews and what I'm going to say. And then I went

1887
01:54:30,578 --> 01:54:33,954
back and changed it to a five. I gave it that extra

1888
01:54:34,002 --> 01:54:37,746
two points because, you know, that I could, that my

1889
01:54:37,778 --> 01:54:40,830
biggest changes were, I wish we had seen Betsy Palmer,

1890
01:54:41,250 --> 01:54:44,178
Pamela Voorhees somewhere else early in the movie,

1891
01:54:44,234 --> 01:54:47,994
just something in the background. And then obviously some of

1892
01:54:48,002 --> 01:54:51,498
the kills we didn't get to see. So I added a 4.8.

1893
01:54:51,554 --> 01:54:55,438
But, you know, it's, it's influence on horror.

1894
01:54:55,634 --> 01:55:00,090
Before this movie, they didn't, they didn't really consider

1895
01:55:00,870 --> 01:55:04,702
horror movies as major box office films. And this is

1896
01:55:04,726 --> 01:55:08,486
a one of the movies that really changed that and a couple other movies that

1897
01:55:08,558 --> 01:55:11,822
year that from 1980 going forward,

1898
01:55:12,006 --> 01:55:16,046
big time horror movies would be considered major box office films

1899
01:55:16,078 --> 01:55:19,894
where prior to that they weren't. It had major influence on

1900
01:55:19,942 --> 01:55:23,850
cinema in that way, but horror as a genre and it gave birth

1901
01:55:23,890 --> 01:55:26,710
to a franchise that spawned twelve movies.

1902
01:55:27,170 --> 01:55:30,490
So I bumped it up to five. I do

1903
01:55:30,530 --> 01:55:34,506
want to throw in kind of a bummer on the movie,

1904
01:55:34,658 --> 01:55:38,474
which was originally Alice was supposed to be kind of hero throughout,

1905
01:55:38,522 --> 01:55:41,978
like the sequels, which, you know, I wouldn't want her

1906
01:55:41,994 --> 01:55:44,578
to be in all of them, but I, you know, wanted her to be in

1907
01:55:44,594 --> 01:55:48,258
like the second one. But she ended up getting a really crazy

1908
01:55:48,314 --> 01:55:51,864
stalker from this movie, which caused her to basically,

1909
01:55:51,912 --> 01:55:54,096
when they were writing the second one, to say, hey, I need you to kill

1910
01:55:54,128 --> 01:55:57,256
me off, like as soon as possible. I don't want to be in these movies.

1911
01:55:57,288 --> 01:56:00,776
And then she kind of hid from Friday the 13th

1912
01:56:00,888 --> 01:56:05,184
fandom for a very long time because of this, which is unfortunate.

1913
01:56:05,232 --> 01:56:08,976
But yeah, I agree, that's a really shitty thing

1914
01:56:09,088 --> 01:56:12,288
to happen. You know, I don't rate her as much as

1915
01:56:12,304 --> 01:56:16,184
I love the franchise. I don't rate her and my like top

1916
01:56:16,312 --> 01:56:20,160
three final girls. Oh, yeah, I think she's great. But I

1917
01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:23,544
do wish we would have got to see her through this

1918
01:56:23,592 --> 01:56:27,140
first trilogy, at least the first three movies that went together.

1919
01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:31,568
And it is really unfortunate that somebody had

1920
01:56:31,584 --> 01:56:35,280
to deal with something like that to the point where they couldn't do

1921
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:38,624
because, you know, as big as the first movie blew

1922
01:56:38,672 --> 01:56:42,072
up when the second one was being made, it was

1923
01:56:42,136 --> 01:56:46,298
huge at that point. So to have to turn down that role out

1924
01:56:46,314 --> 01:56:49,786
of your own personal safety because somebody got fucking

1925
01:56:49,858 --> 01:56:53,082
obsessed. That's sad. Well, then you got fuckers like

1926
01:56:53,106 --> 01:56:56,682
Gene Siskel that's going to just put your address out in the,

1927
01:56:56,826 --> 01:57:00,378
in the newspaper at the time. Yeah, somebody should break

1928
01:57:00,434 --> 01:57:04,034
his gravestone. He doesn't deserve to have one. Well,

1929
01:57:04,082 --> 01:57:08,002
once again, we thank you guys for listening. Please give us a follow

1930
01:57:08,066 --> 01:57:12,042
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1931
01:57:12,106 --> 01:57:15,398
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1932
01:57:15,454 --> 01:57:19,134
dead camp counselor about the show. We hope to see you next

1933
01:57:19,182 --> 01:57:23,414
time. Got any last words? Columbian gold. The grass

1934
01:57:23,542 --> 01:57:26,470
hash. The weed digit killer,

1935
01:57:26,510 --> 01:57:27,350
mommy killer.