The Faculty (1998)

Today Chris and Jordan cover the 1998 Horror/Sci-Fi movie "The Faculty"

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Chris: We'll start that one over. What's going on, everybody? This is the Grindhouse syndicate. And I'm Chris. This is Jordan, and today we are covering 1998 science fiction horror movie The Faculty.

Jordan: Good stuff.

Chris: Yeah, it's a good movie.

Jordan: The Nostalgia.

Chris: All right, so before we get into it, got any cool horror movie news? Any cool stuff you've been keeping up? Got I got I guess I got some. So Universal Studios announced that they're going to be doing what's their theme this year is going to be Stranger Things.

Jordan: Again?

Chris: Yeah, I guess it's again, wasn't last year Stranger Things?

Jordan: Yeah, I believe it was.

Chris: I think it was. I mean, they did that with The Walking Dead, too, though.

Jordan: They were like yeah, but The Walking Dead was like horror.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: Stranger things, not horror. I don't count that as horror Halloween.

Jordan: Horror Nights is supposed to be scary. I personally find Stranger Things as a.

Chris: Comedy with just strange things happening.

Jordan: Things happening. Yeah, that's a great timepiece. But definitely more on the comedy side. Last season. I guess like the main character guy, he was a lot scarier, but I just don't find that scary.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: In my opinion. I don't know this officially, but they ripped off their villain is kind of.

Chris: A rip off of The Void.

Chris: If you haven't seen the void, check the void.

Jordan: Yeah, I actually remember you mentioning that to me. It was definitely like dead spot on.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: The whole look, the voice, the kind of attitude, like everything about that is kind of a rip off of The Void.

Jordan: I can't believe that's not talked about more.

Chris: Well, I think Void is just not super well known. It's kind of known more of hardcore horror fans, but I guess it's not big enough. Like Stranger Things is such this colossal this colossal show that attracts more than just horror fans. And it just overshadows a movie like.

Chris: The Void, I guess.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: How many people's watched The Void and been like the Void ripped off of stranger Things?

Jordan: Anybody who's seen The Void after Stranger Things came out last season? Not anybody. Anybody who's not in the know.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: Another little bit of news is the writers and the actor strike has kind of completely I said kind of and then completely, but has completely put a stop on any of the production on Scream Seven. Doesn't break my heart. I think the screams are coming out too fast.

Jordan: Yeah, and that happens when they try to rush stuff through for money and then it ends up falling apart. I will say the last one was much better.

Chris: Oh, yeah.

Jordan: Much better than part five. But after besides everybody living, it's going to be hard to top that. Especially pushing it out that quick.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: They don't even have a script yet.

Jordan: Yeah, they need to make movies around a good script, not decide to make a movie and then force a script. And I think that happens a lot with studios, and it really ***** stuff up.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: And a big worry, too, is as soon as this strike is over, because they're estimating it's going to last a few months. As soon as the strike is over, they're going to pretty much rush production on Scream Seven, and we're going to end up with this very mediocre movie because it was kind of rushed through. And that's very much a possibility.

Jordan: Yeah, I could definitely see that happening.

Chris: But, yeah, I don't know. Kind of just a little bit of news has been going on this week.

Jordan: The Exorcist.

Chris: Oh, yeah, the exorcist.

Jordan: Just good.

Chris: Yeah, they just dropped what was epic promotional posters.

Jordan: Yeah, the posters. The posters look really good.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: Even though the screening did not do well.

Jordan: Yeah, well, they nailed those posters.

Chris: Nailed the post screening of the posters. Fantastic. But, yeah, that's kind of some of the big news that's happening this week. We got an age 24 movie coming out here soon. What is another movie that just came out? An Insidious just came out about a week ago and has done very well at the box office. Insidious. The red door.

Jordan: Number Five.

Chris: Number five, yeah. I'm not a big Insidious fan, though. I'm not saying it's bad.

Jordan: Yeah, it's not bad. It's not a bad movie. The first two, I think, were better, and then they've kind of just, I feel like, drove that story into the ground a little bit. But, hey, you never know, it might be great.

Chris: I did see that if you are a fan of the first two, then this is kind of a movie for you because this movie returns kind of to the original story of the first two because we kind of got away from that. But we haven't seen it yet. We plan to go see it once we see it, we'll probably do a little short episode on what we think about it. And we'll probably include I don't know if we'll do spoilers or not.

Chris: We'll talk about it.

Jordan: Yeah, we'll definitely be seeing it soon. Brooke will. My wife will definitely she's a huge Insidious. And anything with ghosts. Anything with ghosts, we'll be watching it soon.

Chris: If it's ghosts or, I don't know, other ghosts, she'll watch it.

Jordan: Yeah. Ghost. Demons.

Chris: Ghosts or demons.

Jordan: Yeah, that's right.

Chris: Possessions. She'll watch anything.

Jordan: She'll watch beam movies. Name poltergeist Exorcist. Reels her right in.

Chris: But yeah, let's talk about let's talk about The Faculty. The Faculty is a 1998 American science fiction horror film, and it is directed by Robert Rodriguez, who's known for Machete, Grindhouse's, Planet Hair, and just want to throw this in there. He actually directed all the Stab scenes for the Scream movies.

Jordan: Okay. I did not know that.

Chris: Yeah, Wes Craven didn't want to direct the Stab scenes himself. He wanted to make it seem like it was its own separate movie. So he brought in a separate director and he brought in Robert Rodriguez. So I thought that was super cool.

Jordan: Yeah, that's awesome. Really good idea. Most directors wouldn't think about.

Chris: So it says it's written by Kevin Williamson. But in Kevin Williamson, a lot of people know who he is. He wrote the Scream movies. He wrote, I know what you did last Summer. Halloween. H 20. But actually, the original faculty is written by David Wachetti and Bruce Kimmel. They originally wrote the movie, and then the studio actually brought in Kevin Williamson to do rewrites because Kevin Williamson kind of after Scream, was kind of like the hot name at the time.

Chris: But yes.

Chris: So Kevin Williamson was brought in to make it cool. Actually, the quote is to make it hip. So he came in, he did his rewrites, and Kevin Williamson actually gets the credit for writing this movie, but he did not write the story. So I just want to give credit to the original two writers of the story. And this story is really them kind of paying homage to The Thing.

Chris: Yeah.

Jordan: That's one thing I noticed a while back. And they actually touch on not specifically The Thing, but they kind of touch on some of the other movies in books that it was kind of a 90s version of those same stories.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: There's even a scene that's kind of like a reminiscent of The Thing, where somebody's head gets cut off and they got the head crawling around. And that is a callback to The Thing. They should have did practical effects. It was very CGI CGI.

Jordan: Was not what it is now, then.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: The late 90s was a hey let's CGI everything but the movie stars josh Hartnett, Elijah Wood, ClayA Deval, Jordana Brewster and Laura Harris. Some honorable mentions with the cast are Salma Hayek, Robert Patrick, John Stewart and Usher. The late 90s was a time when you kind of had to have, like, a hip hop star in a movie. At least a horror movie.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: We had what was like brandy was in the second. I know what you did last summer. I remember that just being a thing back then.

Chris: Yeah.

Jordan: I don't even know if Usher has a name in this movie as character. He's just an *******. I don't think they ever actually even give him a name. We got to have usher.

Chris: He's just usher.

Jordan: They brought him in, did some rewrites to make it hip.

Chris: Oh, yeah.

Jordan: That might have been you know, it'd.

Chris: Be hip if we got Usher.

Jordan: Yeah, that sounds like a hip thing for 1999.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: So the film this is interesting. The film was released on December 25 in 1998. In theaters, it had a budget of 15 million. It made 40 million, but it only actually made $11 million on its opening weekend because it was Christmas weekend.

Jordan: Yeah. Who released a horror movie on Christmas day. Not many people, I feel like, are going and watching movies in theaters on Christmas Day.

Chris: Well, I think that the reason that they released it at that time was because this script was originally written in 1990, and it was shopped around. Nobody wanted it. And once Scream had kind of hit big, dimension Films purchased the movie. And then they rushed it through to make it and then they kind of.

Chris: Rushed it through the theaters.

Chris: They were trying to cash in on that Scream horror movie money. Yeah, I think that's what happened. I mean, it's still weird to release it on Christmas Day, but I think that's at least the time frame of why it was released in December.

Jordan: At least you said 1990.

Chris: 1990 was sat for a while. Oh, yeah. That's why they ended up doing the rewrites on it. Because by the time it was written again, was probably like, 97.

Jordan: Things changed. Yeah, things grunge done came through. A lot of things changed.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: New metal was on the way. Grunge was out the door. But yeah. So the story takes place in a fictional town named Harrington, Ohio. But it was actually filmed in Austin, Dallas, San Marcos, and Lockhart, Texas. The high school was located in Lockhart, Texas. I think most of the movie was filmed in Lockhart, Texas. The ratings rotten Tomatoes gave it a 56%, IMDb gave it a 6.6 out of ten, and Letterbox gave it a three and a half stars.

Jordan: Yeah. Rotten tomatoes. I could definitely see them being low on this one.

Chris: Yeah.

Jordan: Like, they're low on a lot of good stuff.

Chris: They don't give many horror movies great ratings anyway, though.

Jordan: No, not unless it's a very artsy, very cinematic done really well in that regard.

Chris: They like elevated horror a lot, but not so much something like this. So our main cast, Josh Hartnett is Zeke Tyler. Elijah Wood is Casey Connor. Clea deval Stokely. Jordana Brewster is Delilah Prophet. Laura Harris is Mary Beth. Sean Hatsoy is Dan Rosito. And you ready? Jump into the plot.

Jordan: Yeah. All right.

Chris: So this movie starts out with kind of a handful of teachers. They're meeting with Principal Drake during an evening at the high school, and they're kind of talking about the budget. And they leave for the meeting. But Principal Drake, she has to go back in. She forgot her keys. And on her way back in, she's attacked by the football coach, Joe Willis, in this scene. Like, Coach Willis is giving off some serious rape vibes.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: And what's weird is she doesn't seem very surprised at all about that.

Jordan: That was my thought, is this guy must be a complete ******* creep or complete ******* all the time. Yeah. She doesn't really seem very surprised at.

Chris: No, she seems like she has to shoot him down all the time, but she ends up kind of escaping from him. But then Miss Olsen gets her a little bit stabbed with the scissors.

Jordan: That old *****. Miss Olsen.

Chris: Yeah, I really like the intro to this movie.

Jordan: Yeah, I really like that part in particular because the first time I seen it, I remember that. Kind of shocking. Didn't I didn't see it coming.

Chris: Oh, no. I love a movie with a good intro. We get right into a kill. We get right into some suspense. I'm all about that.

Chris: Yeah.

Jordan: Every horror movie should have a kill in the beginning.

Chris: Oh, yeah, for sure. So the next morning, we're kind of introduced to all our main characters.

Chris: We got Casey.

Chris: He's kind of the nerdy outcast who is in love with Delilah. You got Delilah. She's the head cheerleader, editor of the school paper. And she's dating the star quarterback. You got Stan. He's popular star quarterback of the football team. Zeke is a very smart but rebellious student who is repeating his senior year. You got Mary Beth, the new girl who just transferred from Atlanta. And Stokely, who is the loner goth chick. So you know, Zeke sells like this drug. So yeah, that's what I want to talk about.

Jordan: Why would you call it is it.

Chris: Scat sling for ****?

Jordan: It is 100% Kevin Williamson. Hey, he's saying this is some good ****.

Chris: Well, Kevin Williamson was brought in to rewrite it and make it cool. And he did not know Scat was ****.

Jordan: He didn't, I guess. Yeah, clearly he didn't.

Chris: I had no idea. I would assume because that's ******* weird.

Jordan: Yeah, that's really strange.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: That is such a stain on this movie, to be honest.

Chris: Yeah.

Jordan: I had to double take at that. I'm like, did they call it Scat?

Chris: He's like sitting there writing the movie.

Chris: He's like, what's?

Chris: Like a cool slang word that we could main this drug? And he's like, scat. Scat. That sounds cool.

Jordan: All the young kids love Scat. Like some good scat up your nose.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: You probably thought that was going to become like a popular word or something. Like, oh, man, this is going to be a huge movie. And all the kids are going to be saying, scat.

Chris: Oh, man.

Chris: Can you imagine little John like, scat, scat, scat. Oh, god, that's terrible. I had to bring that up.

Chris: But that's horrible, man.

Chris: I don't even know.

Jordan: How did that make it through all the people who worked on the you got producers who look over. You got prescreenings. Nobody was like, wrote down. Maybe everybody like it was so obvious. Nobody said anything. They're like, well, obviously he knows that means ****.

Chris: It's going to be so embarrassing when we find out that it's like a regional thing. Like that's only a thing where we're from. People in California is like, I've never heard that before.

Jordan: Got. Only in South Carolina.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: So good. God, I've lost where I'm at on my notes.

Chris: Yes. Terrible.

Jordan: I do love in this movie, though, how they and they don't do it in very many movies. They actually introduce the characters in the beginning of the movie, like by their name. Because I am terrible with names, as you know. I can't hardly remember my mom's name, it gets so bad. Yeah. So them giving us that introduction, some movies will do it. And they'll do the actor that plays them kind of a pre credits. But this one actually gave the character's.

Chris: Names written on the screen.

Chris: Yeah.

Jordan: Helped me out a lot. I'm not going to lie.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: So this next scene we get the scene where Stan tells Delilah that he wants to quit the football team and he wants to quit sports in general. And he wants to focus more on academics. And she pretty much belittles him. And she explains pretty much how it would damage her reputation.

Chris: **** this *****.

Chris: I hate her more than anybody else in this whole entire movie. We'll talk more throughout this episode about how much I hate her. I'm not going to dump it all right now in this part because I got plenty more plenty more for her later on.

Jordan: I got something here at the end, too. But yeah, it's very clear that she is only with him for popularity reasons. And that is it. And I couldn't imagine how disheartening it would be to be like, no, I want to get a scholarship. I want to do good. And then just like your girlfriend's like, you're ******* too stupid for that.

Chris: Yeah.

Jordan: You're going to hurt my reputation if.

Chris: You are going to watch this movie for the first time. And you think, man, she sucks. I'm going to go ahead and break it to you. She sucks this whole entire movie. There's no scene in this movie that she is in where she's even slightly okay, just going to go ahead and put that out there.

Chris: Now.

Jordan: She is the reason Rotten Tomatoes gave this such a low rating.

Chris: She is rotten tomatoes. So Mary Beth, she sees Stokely kind of sitting alone, and she decides to go speak with her and try to make friends with her. And during this conversation, **** face Delilah walks up and starts degrading Stokely. And this is the point where we learn that these two pretty much hate each other. They are kind of like enemies, I guess. Another thing I want to bring up is so with Mary Beth, I really don't like in this movie how they kind of tried to play up this like because, you know, she's from Atlanta. She tells everybody she's from Atlanta. They kind of try to act like Atlanta is like this small town.

Jordan: She's got a very country she's got.

Chris: This super thick accent. And then she's like, I've never met a lesbian before. You're in literally like the New York of the south.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: And you've never met like, a homosexual female, mean, like everything about her is they wrote her as this small Southern town person. And if you've never been to Atlanta, Atlanta is not like this.

Jordan: It actually makes a little sense, though, when you see how the movie plays out.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: I mean, I don't maybe maybe it's written that way on purpose, but I feel like this movie is not deep enough to really do that. But I don't know.

Jordan: Yeah, I don't know. I feel like Atlanta was a bad backstory.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: I should have just picked some small town in Georgia, and that would have made more.

Chris: So anyway, so Casey ends up he.

Chris: Walks over to the football field to eat his lunch. And God ****, that's a long walk to eat your lunch.

Jordan: Spend my half your lunch walking.

Chris: Not only does he walk to the football field, but then he climbs to the top of the bleachers to eat his lunch up there. Like, oh, man.

Jordan: This is the social anxiety walk, I guess.

Chris: But on his way back, he finds a strange creature in the grass, which he takes to the science teacher, Mr. Furlong. And he thinks Casey might have discovered a new species, and he's going to send it to the university. I thought he kind of jumped a little ahead of himself when he said that. Mr. Furlong knows all the species in the world off the top of his head.

Jordan: Yeah, the writers probably didn't go over that very much.

Chris: Yeah, it's like he's seen it for 30 seconds, and it's like, I've never seen this **** before.

Jordan: It's a new species.

Chris: It kind of looks like a shrimp.

Jordan: Got that in my notes. So originally when it's dried out, I put slug. Like it's a slug. Like it's like a dried out slug. And then once it gets put in the water that's what I wrote down. That's definitely a shrimp. This is a really important scene, though, and this is kind of the first important scene. Everything puts kind of character building, showing how all the main characters actually hate each other. But yeah, this is your first indication that this might have something to do with could you kind of forget about that beginning scene at this point?

Chris: Yeah, if I would have been walking and I'd have seen it, I said, somebody dropped a shrimp. Somebody else walked over here to eat lunch, too. I'm not by myself. And they dropped a shrimp. That's what I would have thought. So during Jim Stan's taking a shower, and he gets an unexpected shower guest.

Jordan: I would, yeah, very unexpected.

Chris: It's the very elderly teacher, Miss Brimmel, and she is ripping off her shirt, getting them breastsees out, and she's repeating that she can't breathe, and she grabs onto Stan and tells him they want everyone. That's what she said, right? Like they want everyone. And in those scenes, there's like a.

Chris: Couple shots where her face looks a little like Freddy Krueger.

Jordan: I'm going to be honest. I love this scene. This is one of my favorite parts for the effects wise. Because when her ******* scalp falls off of her head and at this point in the movie, when you're watching this for the first time, you're really thinking like, what the **** is going on here?

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: He kind of tries to console her in accident, half her scalp off. This is the best way to put it. Like her scalp just kind of falls out in his good.

Chris: Good.

Chris: I love it.

Jordan: Yeah, that's good is I will go.

Chris: Over the whole scene, but I do have a little note for the next scene, which is pretty much Zeke getting confronted by his teacher, Miss Burke, which is really not a super important scene. But I do want to point this out because I thought it was really funny. Miss Burke has the same bangs that Gail Weathers has in Scream Three here.

Jordan: Yeah, it might have been part of that rewrite.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: You remember those terrible bangs? Those terrible bangs that Courtney *** got in Scream three.

Chris: They're very short. They're very chopped up.

Chris: Well, it seems that Ms. Burke has copied that look. And man, it was awful. It was not good. I thought as a Scream fan who has seen Scream many times, I thought that was worth a I didn't I.

Jordan: Didn'T stick out to me. But I think that was in.

Chris: Well, next time you watch it, you're.

Chris: Going to see that and be like, yep, those are the same so so then Casey and ***** face Delilah. They sneak into the teacher's lounge, and they're looking for dirt on the teachers for the school paper. And they do what I would call some OD flirting in the scene. I thought it was kind of weird. Like, she kind of accuses Casey of flirting with her because he's calling her a *****.

Jordan: He calls her on her ****.

Chris: And he makes a statement like, you can be real cool sometimes. And I was like, Casey, I haven't seen her be cool one ******* time. I don't know.

Jordan: She's talking to him. That's what's cool.

Chris: Yeah, she's showing him attention, even though it's like negative attention, I guess. But they end up hiding in the closet. And they witnessed the coach and Miss Olsen attacked a school nurse, which you end up kind of seeing that they're kind of passing this parasite thing into the nurse's ear. And then also during this, they discover Miss Brummel's dead body, which is very like Mummy. It's very mummy like, I would say. Very dried up. Looks like it's been dried for many, many years.

Jordan: The Crypt Keeper's mom.

Chris: Yes, the Crypt Keeper's mother. So they end up kind of taking off. They end up running out, freaking out. And as they're running through the hallway, Casey slips. He yells for Delilah to help him. This ***** just keeps ******* going. She doesn't even give him like a second glance, which, once again, she's a ******* terrible person. She sucks. Can't stand her so Casey and his parents, they show up to the school later on with the police and the teachers. Pretty much make it like a big misunderstanding. And Casey's parents, they get upset with him and he gets grounded. And this is where we find out that Casey only has two *****.

Jordan: Max only two?

Chris: Only two.

Jordan: God, those were hard days.

Chris: What a shame.

Jordan: I thought his dad pulling them out in front of his mom, though, because his dad clearly knew where they like it wasn't like he searched for them. He pulled them out. It's like, I've known these were here, but it's part of your punishment. Yeah.

Chris: It'd have been cooler if his dad would have just took one and left the other one. It had been a cool dad move.

Jordan: So maybe his dad maybe there's another stash. And his dad's like, I'm not going to let his mom know about this one.

Chris: Well, you know, really what's really cool, though, is they didn't take his computer. Yeah, because that's where the good stuff is.

Jordan: Well, in 1998, there was some stuff on there. It's going to give you viruses and constant pop ups until you completely redo your computer.

Chris: Back in 1998, just going on like Yahoo and just typing *****. It was so just simple back then. It's just being like *****.

Jordan: You almost had to because like I said, if you go to a site remember, if you went to a ***** site, you was 100% going to get.

Chris: Pop ups after that.

Jordan: And then as a kid, you're kind of standing there like, I don't know about that.

Chris: Well, this was a time when Yahoo, these search companies, were really new and they hadn't really put parental limitations on there. It was kind of up to the parent to set that on the computer.

Jordan: It was the Wild West.

Chris: It was the wild, wild west.

Chris: And our mom did not set parental controls because she just didn't think about that kind of stuff. So you could just go like, type in *****, and pictures of ***** would just so you didn't have to go to the site.

Chris: You could just have just like this.

Chris: Collage of ***** from the Internet that.

Chris: Yahoo just pulled from everywhere.

Chris: And yeah, they were real small pictures, but when you're like twelve, that's all you need.

Jordan: Yeah, you could draw a set of ***** with crowns.

Chris: That's all you need.

Chris: You don't need much.

Chris: So, yeah, the next day and I really like this scene. I want to talk about this scene. So the next day, Casey talks to Stokely about aliens in science fiction, and he kind of tells her his theory about what he thinks going on. This is where they're sitting in the library, and this is such a cool theory. And what he says is basically, what if aliens came here before and pretty much implanted these ideas about all this stuff? That way when they came to invade later on, we didn't really think anything.

Chris: Of it because we were so used.

Chris: To it being like an entertainment idea that we would never think that it was real. And I think that's such a cool theory.

Jordan: Yeah, that's a good theory.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: That ends up not being the case, unfortunately, with this movie. But that's just I don't know, because.

Chris: He talks about, uh, what know, Spielberg.

Chris: Or, like, what if they implanted this idea in his mind? Or where do these people who write.

Chris: These stories, where do they get these ideas?

Chris: What if something else is giving them these ideas? And what is the reason that they're giving these ideas out? And what if that reason is to basically make us think that, oh, this is just Hollywood, this is just entertainment, and there's no way this could ever happen. So when it does really happen, we're like we pretty much don't believe the.

Chris: People who are trying to tell us.

Chris: It's really cool. Super cool scene. I remember not really grasping that a whole lot. The first, like, maybe two times I've.

Jordan: Seen the movie, this is where they're talking about invasions of the body.

Chris: Yeah, they actually kind of in the library. It gets a little meta here, too, because they actually kind of talk about the movies that they're ripping off of.

Chris: Yeah.

Jordan: And I thought that was really cool that they do, because it's very obvious. This is just kind of an updated, different, like, 90s version of those same stories. And I feel like they kind of shouted that out. They kind of gave credit to the originals. I like that. Thought it was interesting.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: Really cool part, man.

Chris: Really cool part. It's a very small part, but I think it's not really important to the story. But it's just a cool idea. And I'm glad they kind of snuck.

Chris: That in then, you know? Of course, it's Kevin Williamson who wrote Scream, which is super meta. And I have a feeling I have a theory that he kind of snuck that in there.

Chris: So a little later on, he ends.

Chris: Up telling Delilah, Stan, and Stokely that he believes the teachers are being controlled by aliens. Zeke and Mary Beth join the conversation. And shortly after, the group is confronted by the science teacher, Mr. Furlong. Mr. Furlong starts to attack them, and Zeke ends up stabbing him in the.

Chris: Eye with the scat pin.

Jordan: Not the scat.

Chris: The scat. The ****.

Chris: Know?

Chris: It's amazing that Josh Hartnett had to.

Chris: Say scat with a serious face.

Jordan: Repeatedly wonder if the actors knew they had to, at least some of them they had to.

Chris: And the fact that he had to say this with a straight face in front of the camera over and over again, man, that's got to be hard.

Chris: But anyway, it ends up causing this crazy reaction, and it kills Mr. Furlong.

Chris: And the group pretty much now fully.

Chris: Believes in Casey's alien theory. So they end up. All kind of bailing on school.

Chris: And they all head to Zeke's house.

Chris: Where he has this makeshift lab where.

Chris: He makes his caffeine powdered drug scat stuff.

Chris: Zeke uses the creature that they get from the science teacher pretty much to do some science stuff. And he discovers that the creatures are hijacking the human bodies like parasites.

Chris: But they need a large amount of water to survive.

Chris: I guess that's why the scat kills.

Chris: Them, because it dries out their bodies.

Chris: Yeah.

Jordan: So they've showed throughout the movie, multiple kind of hints that everybody, all these people in the faculty, are consuming massive amounts of water. That's kind of the first hint towards a weakness. And then they get to his lab. What a ******* little science lab for a high school drug dealer? He had a lab rat. That ****'* expensive. Well, he's been stealing from the school. You know how the school didn't realize a couple thousand dollars in lab equipment was missing?

Chris: I'm surprised they didn't assume somebody was making meth.

Chris: Yeah.

Jordan: Deaf would have been in at some point. But yeah, it was impressive lab.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: He is extremely smart for a guy who can't fix his hair.

Chris: Yeah.

Jordan: In any movie.

Chris: In every movie he's in.

Jordan: Got that ******* Calic in everything.

Chris: Well, it's like he doesn't even try.

Jordan: He doesn't that's part of the character. He's just too cool. He's so cool. He doesn't even have to.

Chris: Yeah, he plays the character that's like super cool as a teenager. But then when this guy turns 35, he doesn't want to ever look at his Facebook post from that age because he cringes so hard. Man. What was I thinking? Yeah, he's just that guy. He just is.

Chris: But yeah.

Chris: So they theorize that if they can kill the leader of the parasite creatures, then everyone would return back to normal. And this is pretty much a theory based upon Invasion of the Body Snatchers or The Puppet Master complete theory.

Jordan: Because if I was in this situation, I'd be like, oh, ****. I don't think that's going to work. Like parasites normally operate individual to each other. I wouldn't be thinking aliens necessarily. I'd be thinking some ridiculous parasite that got out of control. We're putting a lot in on this death theory.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: That is not if I was in that room, I would be like, man, that's a ******* long shot. Can you imagine, like, when COVID happened, if we were like, well, if we could go back and kill the first guy who got COVID, then all the COVID would die.

Jordan: Yeah, that's kind of similar. It is very I would be like, what the ****? I do love this scene, though. This scene I don't know why. It's like the thing it is testing the drugs. When I think back to the first time I ever watched this movie, that's the scene. For some reason that stands out in my head.

Chris: This scene was written to basically mimic the blood test scene from the thing I did read, that the whole reason that they wrote this scene. And they mirrored the blood test scene from the yep.

Chris: I love it.

Jordan: Like I said, I don't know why. It's just one of my favorite scenes. It's one of the first one. When I think back to watching it, that's what comes to my head.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: Why does Zeke keep a gun in his lab? Like, is he protecting his stash of caffeine pills?

Jordan: He's protecting the scat.

Chris: Yeah, but does people want to break in and steal his scat that bad?

Jordan: I don't know where there's that scene where they come up to him and they're like, really wanting some scat. Like those two guys.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: Danny Masterson.

Jordan: Yeah, Danny Masterson and the other guy.

Chris: Whoever that is, who didn't make it as famous.

Jordan: We need some more of that ****. Yeah, we need the scat bad.

Chris: Well, there is like so when you watch this movie, there's actually, like, a ton of actors in this movie that they were obviously not famous at all when they did this movie, who they ended up being a lot more famous. Like, you got Danny Maston is in there. There's also that guy that he's been in quite a few movies. I can't think of his name, but one of his big movies was he's in the original scary movie that's like the boyfriend. But yeah, there's just these kind of people that were like nobody actors at the time that are just sprinkled throughout this movie that ended up being a lot bigger later on.

Jordan: They were hip.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: Some of these people in this movie, we'll talk about it later at the end of the episode. But some of these big actors, these main actors, these are their first or second movie ever. But yeah, so Zeke makes everyone take a hit of his drug to prove they aren't infected by the parasite, and it is revealed that ***** faced Delilah has been infected this whole time.

Jordan: Of course.

Chris: Yeah, of course.

Jordan: You know what? This actually makes sense. If you look further back on in the movie, whenever her and Casey take off and he goes and gets the police, she's nowhere to be found. She leaves them. I assume that this is when that happens.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: So I did look into this, actually, and this is kind of a little bit of debated theory about when she actually gets infected. And a lot of people kind of say that when she went home, like, when she pretty much leaves Casey behind, she gets infected there because when he sees her the next day, she's actually wearing glasses and not contacts. And the theory behind that is so everybody else who gets infected, they are better looking, they're more attractive. If you notice, she becomes, I guess, what you would consider less attractive because she's wearing glasses. She's not all done up like normal. And so the theory is that she could not wear her contacts, because contacts.

Chris: Dry your eyes out.

Chris: And we know that these creatures need all the water that they can get. So the theory is soon as she kind of left the school and went home, they pretty much went after her. She doesn't have two parents at home like Casey does, so it was easier for the faculty to go after her. She mentions her mother is like an alcoholic, so she went home to either nobody or maybe a passed out parent, and it was easier for them to get to her. Plus, they really only needed to get to one, so they could pretty much have, like, a plant in the group of students that was kind of figuring out what was going on.

Jordan: That's a theory. Interesting theory.

Chris: I don't know.

Jordan: If the writers jumped that deep into something, it'd be really cool to know that that's what the plan was. I do love how the scene, like, Zeke is telling everybody, you got to do these drugs. And then he's like, oh, I don't get high on my own. Like, that's a huge red flag if somebody told me, like, I would totally do some scat, I guess, to prove that I'm not a murderous alien parasite.

Chris: Yeah, but anyway, once it's discovered that it's her, she destroys Zeke's lab so he can't make any more of the scat, and she takes off running. She pretty much busts out the door. There's a waiting car outside with the faculty in it. Did you see Stokely comes out that door, busting that ******* gun, like, one handed? She looks like she shoots guns one handed on the regular. I never noticed this until this last viewing. I don't know how I always knew somebody kind of runs out the door shooting at her. I didn't realize it was Stokely, and I didn't realize how comfortable she was with that gun.

Jordan: Sucks that she missed her from really close. It's a revolver, but yeah.

Chris: And she's like a 17 year old girl.

Jordan: Doesn't she? Take it, though? And she like, give it to me.

Chris: She's like, I'll ******* shoot her in the face. I mean, they're enemies.

Jordan: If I knew this girl Delilah, I would have probably did the same thing.

Chris: Yeah, they hate each other.

Chris: And she's like, I'll ******* shoot.

Jordan: I've been waiting to shoot her for months now.

Chris: She was on it, though. I thought that was real cool. So the group realizes that most of the town has been taken over, and they decide to go to the big football game, hunt down the queen alien. They believe that it must be Principal Drake. I guess the theory is she's in charge of the faculty, so she must also be in charge of the aliens.

Jordan: Yeah, kind of a weak theory. You know that this isn't the case based off the beginning of the movie, that she wasn't the original, but kind.

Chris: Of a weak theory.

Jordan: Yeah, I guess if you're well, this whole thing is a weak theory. We got to kill the queen, and we'll kill them all. I mean, it's right, but in hindsight, it was right. But I would think it was really weak theory. But hey, they got to start somewhere. That football team. I just want to throw this in there. They are absolutely ******* destroying that poor other team. Yeah.

Chris: And as they're kind of taking them out, they're infecting because they got the other towns obviously there to watch the game too. And they are infecting the other town now. So pretty much they've hit this town. And they're using the football game to now spread over into the next town. And this is pretty much their plan for this invasion, use this football game as a stepping stone into the next chunk of people.

Chris: But yeah.

Chris: So once they get there, they end up trapping Principal Drake in the gym. And they shoot her in the head. She comes back from the dead. And Mary Beth dumps pretty much 90% of Zeke's Scat collection all over her to kill her. Just pretty much just throws it all over her like dust. And she turns to dust.

Jordan: In hindsight, this makes sense as to why she did that, too. So I really like that being thrown in there. But I loved her death scene as well, when she melts. Well, that was really cool.

Chris: What's really cool about that scene, too, is it was they shoot her in the head first and she starts bleeding from her head. And you're almost questioning like, oh, wait a minute. Is she not an alien? Did I miss a part or something? What's going on? But then she comes back. She kind of comes back from the dead within a few seconds. She even has the characters like, oh, man, we just killed somebody. Like an innocent person. She comes back. Mary Beth? Pretty much, I guess. Mary Beth hey, this is the queen. If we just kill her, like, we can use all this stuff now. And once we kill her, the rest everybody else will be of I guess that's what it was supposed to look like. But anyway, so Stan decides he's going to run out to the football field and he's going to see if pretty much this killing the queen thing worked. Uh, so Stan gets back and he's infected.

Jordan: Love the shot, too, when he goes out there. And it's like nighttime. And the whole football team's, like looking up. And they got the tentacles coming out of their face. And I thought that was really cool. But I was so bummed when they got Stan. Not going to lie.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: He almost gets them to kind of open the door. Like he almost tricks them into it. You as a viewer, don't you're? Like, ****, man. You don't want it to be him, too, because he is a likable character. But they got him he's on the other team now.

Jordan: I love when they do that, too. They kind of leave you as the viewer guessing, too, because you're thinking to yourself, well, I'd probably let him in, or there's no way I'd let him in. But either way, you don't know. In that moment, and up until he dumped the scat all over the ground the last, I was I was kind of thinking, they probably should have let him in.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: So he dumps the last little bit of scat out, and Zeke thinks he has a couple more in his car. He and Casey go out to the car, and they end up splitting up because the infected football team is now kind of chasing them. They use Casey as a decoy. And why did Stan go put his football pats on? Do you see that? So now that Stan is infected, the football team is now chasing Zeke and Casey, and Stan is kind of leading the football team, and Stan has went.

Chris: And got his whole football pads and.

Chris: Uniform on for this Chase scene. I'm just like what?

Jordan: He's like, I'm back on the team.

Chris: Coach.

Jordan: Coach had a sad ready.

Chris: Like, what?

Chris: Okay. Thought that was weird.

Jordan: Had to match the rest of the maybe.

Chris: Maybe that's it. But after some alien human flirting, zeke kills Miss Burke by crashing his car into a bus. And then he starts back to the gym, and he found three pins full of, you know, we cut back to the gym, and Mary Beth reveals to Stokely that she is the queen alien.

Jordan: Love that. Going back. The first time I've seen this movie, I did not see that coming.

Chris: No, that was a good reveal.

Jordan: And it makes so much sense. Like, the new girl that just came and everything started going down.

Chris: That *****.

Jordan: Yeah. I absolutely love that. I did not see it coming.

Chris: Well, she takes the drug so you think she's clear.

Chris: Yeah.

Jordan: And the first time I've seen this, I went back to see if you could actually see the tentacle and like her not take it. You can't.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: They make a little mistake there.

Jordan: You can't see her directly take it either, because she throws her head back, but I wish that they would have put just the little light tentacle or the cat something in there.

Chris: Yeah, I agree, but yeah. So she reveals that she is the queen alien, that she had faked taken the drugs earlier in Zeke's lab. Stokely and Casey, they take off running, and now they have a giant alien version of Mary Beth, who is chasing behind them. And what's crazy is this very giant creature was hiding in this teenage girl's body. Yeah, I'd say. So Zeke catches up to the gang, and they're in this locker room, and he discovers Mary Beth completely naked, and Stokely is now infected. They both attack Zeke, but Casey kind of shows up. He locks Stokely up in a cage. And Mary Beth ends up throwing Zeke kind of across the locker room, knocking him out and pretty much leaves Mary Beth versus Casey. You got one on one final battle. And during her explanation of pretty much where she came from and why she came to Earth or whatever, she actually kind of at least somewhat disproves Casey's theory from the library, which kind of like I don't know. I mean, I guess she doesn't completely disprove like she pretty much what was her explanation? Is know left her world and came she didn't really say why she left her world. I think she, like, drying up or something.

Chris: She just says she escapes her world.

Chris: And she came there. She didn't give, like, a whole lot of explanation, but essentially she wanted to come to Earth. And she seen basically people weren't being themselves and they were pretending to be other people to make other people happy. And she thought that she could change that. And that's pretty much why this whole invasion thing started. But Casey doesn't really give a ****, so he's going to do what he's got to do.

Jordan: It's kind of a weak excuse to invade a planet. Yeah.

Chris: But yeah. So Mary Beth, she transforms back into the giant alien. She chases Casey through the gym. Casey traps her behind the bleachers, and he stabs her in the face with the last gap pin, and it turns her to dust.

Jordan: What an MVP move by him with the you know, most of the time you put yourself in scary movies and you think, I would have did this? I would have done that. I would have never ******* thought no.

Chris: Her brain ran out the gym, turn.

Jordan: The bleachers on and take off running down. I'm like, and had he not done that, how in the hell would he have ever gotten away from this giant ******* alien?

Chris: No, she's huge.

Jordan: It was just good thinking. Good thing he's up there with David. Yeah.

Chris: Why didn't she just turn back into human form and get unstuck, though?

Jordan: Because she was ******.

Chris: If you make her mad enough, she becomes a giant alien.

Jordan: She's the queen. She's in her final form. She can because of the pool scene before that, which I love that shot, by the way, the above shot of the alien swimming through the pool. And then it morphs back into her body and it's underwater swimming. I did say from a cinematography level. I love that scene. Thought that was really cool.

Chris: Yeah. I don't know. Maybe she was just like so I don't know, just so focused on and plus, she launches the little shrimp things at Casey and they start kind of digging into his face. So maybe she thought, I don't know, that she had enough time to take over his body before he could stab her with the pin.

Jordan: Yeah, because you kind of think that.

Chris: Or maybe she doesn't know he even has the pin.

Chris: ****.

Chris: She thinks they're all gone.

Jordan: Is he going to be the new queen? Is that how he becomes? That would be a bad ending.

Chris: I don't know. The alien politics. Does he take over next? I don't know, but yeah. So after the queen's death, casey goes back to check on Stokely. He finds her back to normal and the parasites dead on the floor. Zeke kind of jump. He kind of pops up, does a little jump scare, but he's back, reunited, and he seems fine. And the next scene is one month later, and everyone has turned back into themselves. Casey is now a national hero and dating ******* dating Delilah.

Jordan: Of course, he's now the most popular guy. So, of course, Delilah is now with the new most popular guy.

Chris: Did you did you see that Casey actually has his hair, like, styled now?

Jordan: Yeah, he found some of that.

Chris: So Stan and Stokely are now dating. I hate the fact that Stokely has now changed her appearance, though. She's wearing, like, a purple sweater.

Jordan: Yeah, man, she's been saved. So now she's not.

Chris: She probably she goes to church.

Jordan: Stayed true to herself.

Chris: Yeah, I hate that.

Jordan: Yeah, I hate that. One thing I do love about the end, that was the news report with the police and the FBI not believing the students ever being extraterrestrial. That's totally, 100% believable. That's what would happen.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: Nationally, there's a big debate whether or not it was a hoax or whether it was a real alien invasion, which is kind of mean. You know, Casey's on magazines and stuff and kind of considered a hero. And there's a bunch of media there at the school still kind of doing stories on it. And I don't know, casey seems kind of like I don't know. He's kind of weird about think he's like, oh, is it local news or national news? It's like too much of Delilah has rubbed off on Casey. I don't like it. I was really hoping that Delilah would just be dead at the end. That have been the perfect ending if Delilah would just be dead in case he met, like, a cool nerd. Hate that. Hate that he's dating Delilah. Hate that Stokely is wearing purple. And also, Zeke has taken Stan's spot on the football team.

Chris: Yeah. What?

Jordan: They have the drug they're like, cool drug dealer guy is now the star.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah.

Chris: I'm out to bring up something else, too, that I've been waiting to bring up. What is the deal with the Miss Burke? Zeke sexual, that is.

Jordan: I thought that would go somewhere in the movie. I didn't really remember that whenever I watched it recently. It'd been a couple of years. Very OD, considering they're playing teenagers, which, of course, like every horror movie, there's like 26, 27 year old teenagers all throughout high school. They do that in every movie. But yeah, it was very strange.

Chris: Well, I understand, like, him having a crush on her.

Chris: But why the **** does she have.

Chris: A crush on him? She's, like, 35 and he's, like, 19. And she's, like, actively kind of wanting to **** him.

Jordan: Yeah.

Chris: Every scene that they're in together, there's sexual tension with them, too.

Jordan: Yeah, I agree. I agree. And it never really goes anywhere. Explains that.

Chris: It's really weird. And I don't know why they wrote that in the movie.

Jordan: Yeah, I don't know. That is definitely pretty weird.

Chris: I'm pretty sure Ms. Burke is ******* a guy on the football team and she's, like, probably 40. I don't know. It's ******* weird. And her head got cut off. Whatever. I don't know. But yeah, I mean, that's the faculty.

Jordan: And then q the oasis outro music.

Chris: Yeah. I didn't even realize they didn't pay attention to that.

Jordan: Yeah, we come in with The Offspring and we go out with Oasis. The soundtrack is great.

Chris: So the soundtrack is actually done. They brought in the same guy did the soundtrack for the first Scream.

Jordan: Well, that makes sense because I love that soundtrack. Definitely nostalgia, childhood.

Chris: It's good ****. Yeah. Definitely brought him in. They really wanted that same feel that kind of Scream had. They were really trying to capture that magic with this movie. So let's talk about some I got a couple of things about a little bit of behind the scenes or a little bit of facts about the movie. This was Jordana Brewster's film debut, and this was Josh Hartnett's second feature film. Two people who ended up blowing up to be pretty big film stars. This is kind of the beginning of their film career here. So we already talked about I kind of pulled one out earlier, but yeah, the film was originally written in 1990. No studios wanted it. They shopped it around every studio and just nobody was interested until 96 and the success of Scream. And then it was purchased by Miramax and rushed into production. The original title for the movie was The Feelers.

Jordan: Now. I like the faculty.

Chris: The Feelers. That sounds terrible. I don't even understand that that has anything to do with this movie.

Jordan: No, that's terrible. They definitely scored on that name change, the Feelers. It's weird thinking that if we never had Scream, which would be terrible, but if we never had Scream, we may never have The Faculty.

Chris: Yeah.

Jordan: That movie was so big. I wonder how many other movies we wouldn't have.

Chris: Yeah. So Scream is really that it's like one of those movies where you can set a timeline like, it's part of a timeline of horror movies where it literally sent horror in a certain direction. That's what's really cool about that movie. But another interesting thing on this film set, elijah Wood heard about the up and coming Lord of the Rings movies being made. And this is where he was convinced to send his audition tape into Peter Jackson for a role. And he had never even read any of the.

Jordan: That'S that's interesting. Yeah, that's a good one. He's still got Middle Earth and the entire Shire to save.

Chris: Yeah, that ended up changing his life, too. He was a bigger actor at that time, but Lord of the Rings shot him into this whole different whole thing.

Jordan: Yeah, that was a whole nother level.

Chris: This movie was just recently reissued on Blu ray in 2021. So not too long ago, actually, they finally Blu rayed it up.

Jordan: Yeah, I do not have the Blu ray yet.

Chris: No, I think your copy is on that one with, like, seven other movies.

Jordan: Yeah, it was cheap.

Chris: So this is cool. When discussing the aliens having a master, the first person to refer to the head alien as a queen and calling her a her was Mary Beth foreshadowing herself as the queen alien.

Jordan: Yeah, I like that.

Chris: That is super cool.

Chris: That's super cool. Yeah, she pretty much sneaks in there like she's a queen and she's a her, but she's not. Yeah, totally not me.

Jordan: But they're doing so good. You never think no, that's one thing I love about this movie, is that it's her and you never see it coming. She's just like the sweet Southern girl know, tiny little town Atlanta in of. She's just the last person you think of.

Chris: Yeah, definitely. Really cool thing to sneak in there. And I just thought that was awesome. Zeke is technically the only character that doesn't get infected. And in my opinion, that would make Zeke the R. J. McCready of this movie.

Chris: Yeah.

Jordan: So I did notice that because he gets thrown across the locker room at the end. And I was like, well, I don't know if it's just down to Casey or if he gets infected, but then at the end, he does that jump scare, which I don't know why the hell you would do that in this situation. I would be ******. I'd be like, why the **** would you do that? But he pops up and he does not look like he has been infected. It looks like he just got up from getting thrown across the room.

Chris: So I guess Casey, technically, they're like getting in his skin, but they don't.

Chris: Actually take over his body.

Chris: But technically they did kind of get in him. But Zeke is the only one that never actually had the parasite on him or in him.

Jordan: Yeah, that's infected. I mean, if you get a parasite inside you, you get a ringworm in your stomach, even if it's just for a second, you got infected.

Chris: But, yeah, we'll move on to kills and ratings. So Cinemorg says that this movie has five deaths in it. Those deaths are mr. Furlong, mary Beth, nurse Rosa Harper, principal Drake and Miss Brummel. Now, I do not remember the nurse dying. Do you?

Jordan: Did they count the shower? Is that the last one you mentioned?

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: Ms. Brummel?

Jordan: Brummel yeah. Okay. The nurse dying.

Chris: Yeah.

Jordan: She she's not the one who when they're in the closet, she comes in there.

Chris: So the last time that we see the nurse with my you know, they put the thing in her ear, whatever, and know, Casey and them, they run out and then they run into the principal in the hallway and they're like.

Chris: Oh, blah, blah, blah.

Chris: They just attacked the nurse. And the principal's like, oh, well, that's weird. And they turn around and the nurse and the coach and the other teacher are standing there. So now the nurse is now obviously turned into an alien. And that's the last time I remember seeing the nurse.

Jordan: You actually see her again. She's how they got the whole school.

Chris: Because she's oh, yeah, that's right.

Jordan: She's doing like, random ear checkups on everybody. What they're really doing is infecting the entire school. So I don't remember her dying.

Chris: Don't remember her dying either.

Jordan: It's a deleted then.

Chris: Uh, so there's another thing too, where apparently the science teacher, Mr. Furlong, is in the very end of the movie where he just has an eye patch on now. And I had watched a movie twice, and I did not see him in the end of the movie. So I think that there's maybe some deleted scenes or stuff with this movie that maybe you need like a DVD or something with special features or something that we're missing. Because those two I don't recall that stuff about those two.

Jordan: Yeah.

Chris: So in my opinion, off my memory, like, you know, solid deaths are just three.

Jordan: Yeah, I'll go with three there. Until we see the deleted scenes.

Chris: I would give the kill ratings like a 2.5.

Jordan: Yeah, not great kill.

Chris: That's for Miss Bremel. Honestly.

Chris: Yeah.

Jordan: So Miss Bremel was my favorite kill.

Chris: She carries the two, and the 0.5 goes to Principal Drake dry *** body.

Jordan: Falling apart because she couldn't handle the parasite. Her scalp falling off is my favorite. If you put kills, if you count that as a kill scene, she's dying there. I thought that was fantastic. The other ones too, they kind of use some CGI and stuff. And it wasn't all that great back then. Principal Drake too. That one wasn't bad. She gets capped in the head and then kind of melts like a slug with salt.

Chris: Be honest.

Chris: I thought Principal Drake was hot, too.

Jordan: She was attractive, good looking principal, that's for sure. That is not what my principal looked like. No.

Chris: My favorite I think we can both agree the favorite Kill was know we I don't think we need to debate that. That was really the only super great kill in this movie. I don't know. You want to do rating?

Jordan: Yes.

Chris: You want to go first?

Jordan: Yeah, I'll go first this time. You went first last time. So I would give this a solid 3.7. I thought it was a good movie. Probably higher rating due to the nostalgia, remembering. This from being a kid just that whole time. That whole time period. Definitely special. I think the acting was good. I think the surprises, like there was a couple of surprises throughout the movie, but especially the end where you find out who the queen is. I thought that was really good. And overall, I think it was a great movie. Not big on cinematography. Kills aren't amazing. But the time I thought all the actors did pretty well. And I thought they did a really good job with really kind of a who's done it kind of feel where it's like, who is this queen? And the reveal was really good. 3.7.

Chris: Yeah, I'm going to go 3.7, too. This is just a fun movie. It's really pretty simple. This is a fun movie that's supposed to be just entertaining. It's not breaking any boundaries. It's admitting that it's really a rip off of Body Snatchers or The Thing. It's just one of those kind of movies where something is kind of slowly taking everybody over and you don't know who to trust. You don't know, really who's kind of the main bad guy. And the main bad guy is obviously in the core group. And at the end you get that.

Chris: Surprise of who it is.

Chris: And it does all that stuff really well. It has some plot points that are not great or predictable. But overall, this movie is fun. It does what it's set out to do. And it's a solid 3.7. And I think it's always going to be a fun movie to go back and watch. It's not shot amazing. It doesn't have all these amazing camera shots, but it's just fun. It's just a fun movie. And I don't see any reason of knocking maybe the small little negative things about it. I really have a good time watching this movie. This is a fun movie to watch with friends. Just a good time. Good time. I'm glad we covered it. I'm glad I went back and watched it again. For me, it is kind of a classic movie. Kind of movie I grew up watching. Yeah, solid 3.7, for sure.

Jordan: Yeah, I can agree with that. Definitely not an original story. It's been done many times before. But I think the fact that they acknowledge that in the movie, I give them some extra points for that. Fun movie.

Chris: Yeah, definitely fun. Well, that's going to be it for the faculty. I don't know. Did we already discuss what we're doing next?

Jordan: No, not for sure. We got a couple of things that are possibilities, but I don't think we have a for sure one nailed down yet.

Chris: Yeah, I don't know. Maybe we'll do a little bit of a new kind of like the last two movies done, a little older movies. Maybe we'll try to do a little bit of a newer movie. Maybe like an X. Yeah, we want to kind of bounce it around a little bit. And do a little older. Do newer. We do plan to do some really good movies that are kind of held really high standard. And then we want to do some absolute terrible movies where we pretty much can sit here and just talk **** about it the whole entire time. We're kind of just going to bounce around everywhere. But the next movie is probably going to be a newer movie. So keep an eye out for that. And we hope you guys enjoyed the episode. You got anything else you want to throw in here?

Jordan: No, I think that wraps it up. Go check out the faculty if you haven't seen it's a great movie.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: And I guess I'm going to leave it on. The last words of make sure you.

Chris: Stay off the scat.

Chris: Yeah.

Jordan: Do not do too much of the scat.

Chris: And if you know any family members that are having problems with scat, make sure that they get help.

Jordan: Absolutely. There's a scat help line. Actually, we need to we'll put it.

Chris: In the show notes.

Jordan: Absolutely.

Chris: Definitely put the number for the scat hotline in the show notes.

Chris: Yeah.

Jordan: Don't be full of ****. No, stay off the scat.

Chris: Well, thanks for listening. Later.